Jesse Williams speech

[machidafan99]

"this invention called whiteness" --blame our vitamin D needs my light skinned, blue-eyed friend.

 

[method115]

So Justin Timberlake tries to tweet support for the speech and he is immediately personally attacked (the sharks smelled weakness).

Fuck Jessie Williams, fuck Ernest Owens, fuck BET, and fuck that racist-ass movement known as #BLM.

I don't get why people in Justin Timberlakes position apologize. If I had that much money apologizing would cost more then any amount of money I could lose as long as I get to keep everything I already have I wouldn't give a shit. In fact I'd probably double down and start to enter troll territory.

As far as the speech I don't really care somethings were true somethings he just went off on that were stupid and didn't even make sense.

 

[Satur9]

I don't get why people in Justin Timberlakes position apologize. If I had that much money apologizing would cost more then any amount of money I could lose as long as I get to keep everything I already have I wouldn't give a shit. In fact I'd probably double down and start to enter troll territory.

No clue, man.

It's not even the money part that grinds my gears. I can almost say with certainty that JT is not racist, so he shouldn't have apologized. It just emboldens people to use the race card when not even slightly appropriate. If you know in your heart you aren't a racist, then stop apologizing for things that aren't even racist! It just keeps the wheels on the hate bus lubricated, or something like that lol.

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I don't get why people in Justin Timberlakes position apologize. If I had that much money apologizing would cost more then any amount of money I could lose as long as I get to keep everything I already have I wouldn't give a shit. In fact I'd probably double down and start to enter troll territory.

As far as the speech I don't really care somethings were true somethings he just went off on that were stupid and didn't even make sense.

Timberlake was incredibly naive to support such a stupid whiny rant. If there is one thing I hate more than stupid whiny rants, it is virtue signalling cowards who openly support those rants.

 

[method115]

Timberlake was incredibly naive to support such a stupid whiny rant. If there is one thing I hate more than stupid whiny rants, it is virtue signalling cowards who openly support those rants.

Hmm this is true the fact that he would even try to praise the guy for this speech is stupid so maybe he did have this coming in a way. Still if it was me I wouldn't give two fucks but then again I would have never praised that guys speech to begin with.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

This fits this thread like a fine sweater.

 

[lfd0311]

The best part about this rant is that this dude doesn't even realize that he only has a career because he can play racially ambiguous roles. It isn't because he's a good actor. He's a shit actor. My wife was a big Grey's Amantomy fan, and I for some reason thought "Brooklyn's Finest" looked like it might be a good flick. I was wrong, and this dude is monotone and boring as fuck. If he showed half as much emotion in his roles as he does in this speech I might have actually recognized his name. This experiment called whiteness. Jesus. This dude's goddamn mom is from Sweden.

 

[LilMountain]

This fits this thread like a fine sweater.

A sweater, is that some sort of reference to Bill Cosby? Is that how you see my people, as nothing more than rapists and perverts!? Your racism disgusts me!

 

[Social Distance Warrior]

@panamaican

Just so you know, I appreciate your insight and posts on racial issues.

I don't always agree but I do respect your opinion on the matter.

that being said, another aspect that threw me off about this speech was the notion of this "invention called whiteness".

What does that mean and/or how did you interpret that?

 

[sangreporsangre]

@panamaican

Just so you know, I appreciate your insight and posts on racial issues.

I don't always agree but I do respect your opinion on the matter.

that being said, another aspect that threw me off about this speech was the notion of this "invention called whiteness".

What does that mean and/or how did you interpret that?

He was obviously referring to how the white devils were created by Yakub

 

[Jack V Savage]

He was obviously referring to how the white devils were created by Yakub

He was really just talking about how "whiteness" is an artificial cultural grouping. It's actually been used in the service of increasingly greater inclusion in America (as lots of groups--Germans, Italians, etc., that weren't previously considered "white" came to be). It obviously has some limits, though, and we would be better served by using "Americanism" as a replacement.

 

[IDL]

"this invention called whiteness" --blame our vitamin D needs my light skinned, blue-eyed friend.

He's using the Marxist terminology which equates whiteness with racism and oppression. It comes from the same cult that has redefined racism to mean only white people can be racist.

The idea is if whiteness can be eliminated, then the utopia can be achieved.

This is the sort of thing that is being financed and pushed in the school systems internationally.

for example
http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/whiteness

 

[Bald1]

He was really just talking about how "whiteness" is an artificial cultural grouping. It's actually been used in the service of increasingly greater inclusion in America (as lots of groups--Germans, Italians, etc., that weren't previously considered "white" came to be). It obviously has some limits, though, and we would be better served by using "Americanism" as a replacement.

Just thinking out loud here, but what's more "artificial" ? Grouping all white folks together, or separating them by country of origin? Doesn't really matter either way, I just found your post interesting.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Just thinking out loud here, but what's more "artificial" ? Grouping all white folks together, or separating them by country of origin? Doesn't really matter either way, I just found your post interesting.

I think the national groupings (which, BTW, weren't exactly political ones) are "natural" in the sense that they came to be organically. "Whiteness" is a more ideological creation. Again, I'm not saying it's "bad." One of the effects of the invention of "whiteness" is that it reduced irrational discrimination against a lot of groups that previously faced it.

 

[Bald1]

I think the national groupings (which, BTW, weren't exactly political ones) are "natural" in the sense that they came to be organically. "Whiteness" is a more ideological creation. Again, I'm not saying it's "bad." One of the effects of the invention of "whiteness" is that it reduced irrational discrimination against a lot of groups that previously faced it.

Got it. BTW, I didn't think you were saying that "whiteness" was bad, and don't think you were being divisive. Now if we can just "reinvent" humanness then we'd be making headway. Unfortunately we're not there yet, as people tend to focus on things that separate, instead of things that bind us together.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Got it. BTW, I didn't think you were saying that "whiteness" was bad, and don't think you were being divisive. Now if we can just "reinvent" humanness then we'd be making headway. Unfortunately we're not there yet, as people tend to focus on things that separate, instead of things that bind us together.

I think that, unfortunately, we do need an "out group" to be bound. Marxists have tried and failed miserably to use class as a substitute for nationalism, while right-wingers have successfully been able to use race. I think nationalism does work, and is the real solution. I would support making English the national language and a few other symbolic changes along those lines.

 

[machidafan99]

Good point but, yeah, I've heard "diversity is strength" this is what that cult says. But diversity is diversity. It's a culture of achievement equals strength.

He's using the Marxist terminology which equates whiteness with racism and oppression. It comes from the same cult that has redefined racism to mean only white people can be racist.

The idea is if whiteness can be eliminated, then the utopia can be achieved.

This is the sort of thing that is being financed and pushed in the school systems internationally.

for example
http://www.ucalgary.ca/cared/whiteness

 

[lifelessheap]

Saying white people is as irresponsible as saying black people. Same goes for "invention called whiteness"

Name people, name organizations, name affiliations, don't fire off at an entire color. It's disgusting whichever direction generalizing comments like that are slung.

Oh, he certainly came off as a racist asshole who hates white people.


But hating white people is popular and accepted so nobody will care.

 

[DoomPatrol]

I couldn't help but notice that he compared Eric Garner's life to that of blacks in the 1800s, which immediately made me stop taking him seriously. Eric Garner lived in NYC in the 2000s and had all the opportunity in the world to succeed. He was killed because he refused to cooperate with police. That in no way is comparable to the suffering that blacks felt during the 1800s and is rather disgusting.

Jesse Williams is a cuck.

 

[Bald1]

I think that, unfortunately, we do need an "out group" to be bound. Marxists have tried and failed miserably to use class as a substitute for nationalism, while right-wingers have successfully been able to use race. I think nationalism does work, and is the real solution. I would support making English the national language and a few other symbolic changes along those lines.

I'm not sure we need an out group, but you could be right. A common cause might do it, and a common language would help as well. And I'm talking globally here.