JDS tested positive for hydrochlorothiazide.

[UJustGotChaeld]

I agree. My grandma is on this stuff as well You can buy it in my country for less than 2 bucks and it's being sold without a prescription. I pick it up all the time.

This shit won't help you with anything. LOL at people thinking this is some kind of PED. Cerrone tested positive for the same thing.

Except it's literally the most commonly used masking agent.

I was a medical lab technician. I mostly ran the same blood tests day in and day out. I can tell you for a fact that this along with Lisinopril are probably the most common blood pressure medication that old people are on. This is a very mild diuretic and in my experience it barely does anything for most people. I was pointing out that if anyone would use this they would use it to most likely try and cut more weight. Which I would guess was why Cerrone was using it. USADA does urine and blood test. This mild diuretic won't mask anything under stringent testing. My guess is that it was in a supplement he took. I don't see how this stuff would benefit a fighter like JDS, a HW who fights in the 240s.

Because you are simply ignorant. It does work. It's the most common masking agent and it's detected without the PED being detected meaning it does work.

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Thanks for the info
Don't listen to the trolls
So many on here, hate people that actually contribute to conversations

It's the most common masking agent and it works. It only has a 1-2 day detection period.

All classes of diuretics were represented in the positive cases; hydrochlorothiazide was the most common diuretic detected, with 137 cases.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2962812/

 

[FrankieNYC]

It's the most common masking agent and it works. It only has a 1-2 day detection period.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2962812/

Thanks for the info

When it comes to any of this I get very confused, so I appreciate adult convo about it & I try to learn, but it's still "Greek to me"

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

Thanks for the info

When it comes to any of this I get very confused, so I appreciate adult convo about it & I try to learn, but it's still "Greek to me"

Is it the best diuretic? Nope. It's commonly used in conjunction with another diuretic. But it's one of the most common diuretics used. That doesn't mean it's not incidental use, but claiming it must be is false. This reeks of Jones looking for a way out, rather than Romero's instant response of we know how this happened. Even Romero's very believable story could be total BS.

 

[Bagatur]

I was a medical lab technician. I mostly ran the same blood tests day in and day out. I can tell you for a fact that this along with Lisinopril are probably the most common blood pressure medication that old people are on. This is a very mild diuretic and in my experience it barely does anything for most people. I was pointing out that if anyone would use this they would use it to most likely try and cut more weight. Which I would guess was why Cerrone was using it. USADA does urine and blood test. This mild diuretic won't mask anything under stringent testing. My guess is that it was in a supplement he took. I don't see how this stuff would benefit a fighter like JDS, a HW who fights in the 240s.

a tainted supplement. how original.

 

[flyingscissorsheelhook]

Sucks, I was looking forward to that fight.

 

[Final Say]

Is it the best diuretic? Nope. It's commonly used in conjunction with another diuretic. But it's one of the most common diuretics used. That doesn't mean it's not incidental use, but claiming it must be is false. This reeks of Jones looking for a way out, rather than Romero's instant response of we know how this happened. Even Romero's very believable story could be total BS.

You could guess with near certainty that Yoel is on something just by staring at him

With the pop, you'd have to be kidding yourself to think it's all just a coincidence. His story is least believable imo

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

You could guess with near certainty that Yoel is on something just by staring at him

With the pop, you'd have to be kidding yourself to think it's all just a coincidence. His story is least believable imo

If I had to guess I would say he is. But of everyone who has popped, I think his is the only time I heard tainted supplement and found the story believable.

 

[FrankieNYC]

Doesn't JDS have heart issues?

I doubt he would pass medicals if he did

 

[bjpenngoat]

its unfair that they ban diuretics or masking agents because they THINK there might be steroid use behind that. Why not just ban for the use of actual steroids? There is no way of knowing if an athlete did in fact use ped. Its just a guess. We are passing judgements on guesses not actual evidence. I get it that in no way would anyone take this stuff if they weren't using peds, but on the off chance that an athlete was using a diuretic for what it was intended to do, they really should only bust elevated test levels and direct steroid usage.

 

[WaTaRu]

Pharmacist here,

Hydrochlorothiazide (HCTZ) is a pretty weak diuretic. I would think if he was masking some banned substance he would take furosemide instead. Furosemide has quite a bit stronger diuretic effect with the added benefit that it is eliminated from the body faster than HCTZ. I don't know how to interpret these results...

I'm no expert at using them for illegal reasons though. I could be missing something...I guess slightly less side effects?

 

[FrankieNYC]

its unfair that they ban diuretics or masking agents because they THINK there might be steroid use behind that. Why not just ban for the use of actual steroids? There is no way of knowing if an athlete did in fact use ped. Its just a guess. We are passing judgements on guesses not actual evidence. I get it that in no way would anyone take this stuff if they weren't using peds, but on the off chance that an athlete was using a diuretic for what it was intended to do, they really should only bust elevated test levels and direct steroid usage.

Wouldn't he have to alert USADA in advance & give proof why he took it?

 

[UJustGotChaeld]

its unfair that they ban diuretics or masking agents because they THINK there might be steroid use behind that. Why not just ban for the use of actual steroids? There is no way of knowing if an athlete did in fact use ped. Its just a guess. We are passing judgements on guesses not actual evidence. I get it that in no way would anyone take this stuff if they weren't using peds, but on the off chance that an athlete was using a diuretic for what it was intended to do, they really should only bust elevated test levels and direct steroid usage.

Why would they use a masking agent if not to mask use?

 

[Al3s]

Man, it's amazing the mental gimnastics people do when a liked fighter pops for something.

 

[cevo]

Why are athletes still taking supplements? Most of them are shit anyway, and you run the risk of testing positive.

I call BS on this.

 

[Mikey Palangio]

it is funny how all these fighters in top physical shape suddenly have all kinds of medical conditions when they get busted for banned substances.

We believe that they are in top physical shape, but we don't know. They are humans like the rest of us, and they can develop pathologies.

However, it is more probable that JDS used HCTZ for performance enhancing purposes, and it is also realistic that maybe one of his supplements was contaminated.

 

[Mikey Palangio]

And Jones tested positive for the same to substances as Bork Lesnar because benis didn't work right.

Jon Jones' brother was caught around the same time he was caught for PEDs. That is too much of a coincidence.

Most athletes who are serious about winning and are winning, use PEDs. Even Peyton Manning used PEDs and blamed his wife, and the media swept it under the rug.

They are all on PEDs. They just haven't been caught.

 

[Roukas]

We believe that they are in top physical shape, but we don't know. They are humans like the rest of us, and they can develop pathologies.

However, it is more probable that JDS used HCTZ for performance enhancing purposes, and it is also realistic that maybe one of his supplements was contaminated.

I agree Some people think cause ur ripped and shredded that ur automatically healthy which is far from the case. Fighters r probably some of the most unhealthy people internally due to strikes landed to vital organs, brain trauma and severe weight cutting. Seeing as how JDS doesn't even cut weight though has me thinking he was using PEDs and this was to mask whatever it was

 

[Mask Of Winters]

I just love how some people assume UFC fighters waste their time and money buying drugs that "don't really help them anyway"

 

[Prex32]

90%+ of pro MMA fighters dope.

Yes, your favorite fighter probably dopes.

nah. mcg clearly doesn't.