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JBJ who is that?
not that cemented Im afraid..
Where was Jones on the 22nd of November 1963? Rumor has it he was seen fleeing the grassy nole.
LHW was always shit, but Gus >>>>>>>>>>> Jones.
There is nothing true about this post at all
Jones resume is fucking overrtaed.
Gus >>>>>>>>>>> Jones.
According to you, how many 'elite' years does he realistically still have left to rebuild his legacy,
knowing that he hasnt suffered that much damage (Vitor Gracie / Gus) and that his camp/coaches are pretty 'conservative'?
Bruh, the fucking samples he's submitted in a small period of time show that it was a trace amount. It was in and out of his system really quick. If it was a large amount it would show in his system for awhile. Stop being a soyboy and trying to make excuses for Daniel Belt Warmer Cormier.there is zero evidence that he only took a trace amount. why do you keep repeating this?
Bruh, the fucking samples he's submitted in a small period of time show that it was a trace amount. It was in and out of his system really quick. If it was a large amount it would show in his system for awhile. Stop being a soyboy and trying to make excuses for Daniel Belt Warmer Cormier.
Bruh he tested negative and within less then a month tested positive then again tested negative not too long after. What he tested positive for can be detected for several months in someone. Which he clearly didn't have it in his system for several months making it a small trace amount that entered into him. Which appears to logically point towards a tainted supplement. Of course there's no way to know the exact amount.but it's obvious it wasn't alot. With the small ass amount that did enter his system sometime within less then a month of the fight it would have no bearing on how the fight went. He didn't become a God from that trace amount. No amount of steroids would've set him up to destroy DC. DC lost because he's nowhere near Jones level plain and simple. This is America and we have due process and until its proven that he intentionally took it he did not cheat. Innocent until proven guilty.You are talking bollocks.
His previous test was a month earlier, it did not just suddenly appear.
Second, it was metabolite they analyse for which by their very nature are really really small.
His own fucking defence expert Paul Scott stated in the fucking hearing that there was no possible way of knowing how much was administered!!
His own defence team admitted that!!
LOL Idk what liberal fantasy world you live in. But DC will never beat Jon Jones. Daniel Belt Warmer Cormier is only talked about as someone who holds on to Jones belt while he's on break.All I know is a 39 year old DC murks a juiced up 39 year old Jon jones
If you ignore the official decision and go by who was doing more damage and consider the Hamill fight a win, then you have to do the same thing and consider the Gus fight a loss. Either way, he’s lost.
Bruh he tested negative and within less then a month tested positive then again tested negative not too long after.
What he tested positive for can be detected for several months in someone. Which he clearly didn't have it in his system for several months making it a small trace amount that entered into him.
Which appears to logically point towards a tainted supplement.
Of course there's no way to know the exact amount.but it's obvious it wasn't alot.
Innocent until proven guilty.
He has loads of time to get suspended again. I can see another fuck up. Maybe 2 if he's focussed.
not long after? you call three months not long after
The detection window of metabolite M3 is around 30-60 days. (Per Daniel Eichner SMRTL and Don Catlin UCLA)
He was tested at the start of July (7th) that was negative
His sample from July 28th was positive
His next urine sample was Mid October, nearly three months later.
If the detection window is only around 60 days then of course, 80 days later his sample will be clean.
duh.
Despite there NEVER, EVER being an incident of a non-high-risk supplement being found contaminated with turinabol.
In the tens of hundreds of supplements USADA have tested, not one single supplement found contaminated with turinabol where there wasnt indication on the packaging that it contained prohibited substances. NO ONE.
In tens of hundreds of supplements tested by the FDA, not one single supplement found contaminated with turinabol where there wasnt indication on the packaging that it created prohibited substances.
So your logic is, that Jones, was able to be the first person ever to find a supplement to be contaminated with turinabol?
How is that logical? That Jones situation is so unique, such an outlier to what we know from past testing, to be more likely?
And thats before we get into the fact that Jones team sent 17 supplements for analysis. SEVENTEEN. Thats seven that he declared on his anti doping forms and an additional ten on top. And NONE of them were found to contain turinabol.
So not only would Jones have to have found the first ever non-risk supplement to contain tbol, but also, despite a years investigation, neither he, nor his team were able to remember the name of that supplement, remember him taking it, it wasnt reported on any of his doping controls forms...
You think that is Logical?
You simply have no way of determining this. His own fucking expert (Paul Scott of Scott Analytics/Korva Labs) even stated there was no way of knowing how much was administered. He clearly stated that it simply wasnt possible to know that.
Are you claiming that you know more than his own fucking expert witness?
Unfortunately that is now how doping violations work. USADA have proven that the substance was in his system, that is indisputable. Jones does not dispute that.
The onus is then on Jones' team to determine how it got in his system.
Innocent till proven guilty is totally unworkable in doping cases. How can USADa prove that he deliberately took a steroid, unless you have video evidence of him taking it its impossible. Thats why the onus is on the athlete to demonstrate how it got there.
Yo buddy calm yourself theres no need to get all heated about the facts.not long after? you call three months not long after
The detection window of metabolite M3 is around 30-60 days. (Per Daniel Eichner SMRTL and Don Catlin UCLA)
He was tested at the start of July (7th) that was negative
His sample from July 28th was positive
His next urine sample was Mid October, nearly three months later.
If the detection window is only around 60 days then of course, 80 days later his sample will be clean.
duh.
Despite there NEVER, EVER being an incident of a non-high-risk supplement being found contaminated with turinabol.
In the tens of hundreds of supplements USADA have tested, not one single supplement found contaminated with turinabol where there wasnt indication on the packaging that it contained prohibited substances. NO ONE.
In tens of hundreds of supplements tested by the FDA, not one single supplement found contaminated with turinabol where there wasnt indication on the packaging that it created prohibited substances.
So your logic is, that Jones, was able to be the first person ever to find a supplement to be contaminated with turinabol?
How is that logical? That Jones situation is so unique, such an outlier to what we know from past testing, to be more likely?
And thats before we get into the fact that Jones team sent 17 supplements for analysis. SEVENTEEN. Thats seven that he declared on his anti doping forms and an additional ten on top. And NONE of them were found to contain turinabol.
So not only would Jones have to have found the first ever non-risk supplement to contain tbol, but also, despite a years investigation, neither he, nor his team were able to remember the name of that supplement, remember him taking it, it wasnt reported on any of his doping controls forms...
You think that is Logical?
You simply have no way of determining this. His own fucking expert (Paul Scott of Scott Analytics/Korva Labs) even stated there was no way of knowing how much was administered. He clearly stated that it simply wasnt possible to know that.
Are you claiming that you know more than his own fucking expert witness?
Unfortunately that is now how doping violations work. USADA have proven that the substance was in his system, that is indisputable. Jones does not dispute that.
The onus is then on Jones' team to determine how it got in his system.
Innocent till proven guilty is totally unworkable in doping cases. How can USADa prove that he deliberately took a steroid, unless you have video evidence of him taking it its impossible. Thats why the onus is on the athlete to demonstrate how it got there.