Jan was the better striker

[HHJ]

Poatan def kept his hands low because of the TD


and still won

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

God this place sucks

 

[Bradillac]

Lol, even with the TD threat he couldn’t outstrike Alex.

 

[Streeter]

Who'd a thought Jan Alex wpuld be worst fight on card

 

[kingghidrah]

He's also 40 years old. Little slower on his reflects for sure.

Nope, joe rogan said Jan hasn't slowed down.

 

[LoveSherdogThisTime]

The better striker doesn't shoot within the first 10 seconds. Just saying.

He does if he's the way better wrestler.

It's the same logic that Khabib/Chael/Randleman are better strikers than Conor/Silva/CroCop. Maybe when their opponent is dealing with takedown threat, but no way they win a kickboxing match. Jan went full wrestler from the get go.

No. The same logic doesn't apply. Khabib had Lesnar-esque fear when it came to throwing hands. He swung for the fences against McGregor and it barely earned him a knockdown.

Also, what kickboxing match are you talking about? An actual kickboxing match or an MMA fight where two opponents just decide to strike? Because if it's the latter, then I disagree. Pereira will get knocked out by brawlers who can throw combinations in the pocket. You saw that he had to constantly reshuffle every time he throws. His style is more effective in boxing and kickboxing where you can clinch when you are in trouble and the ref separate you.

 

[Tweak896]

He does if he's the way better wrestler.


No. The same logic doesn't apply. Khabib had Lesnar-esque fear when it came to throwing hands. He swung for the fences against McGregor and it barely earned him a knockdown.

Also, what kickboxing match are you talking about? An actual kickboxing match or an MMA fight where two opponents just decide to strike? Because if it's the latter, then I disagree. Pereira will get knocked out by brawlers who can throw combinations in the pocket. You saw that he had to constantly reshuffle every time he throws. His style is more effective in boxing and kickboxing where you can clinch when you are in trouble and the ref separate you.

I'm saying shit like those matchups I listed, if they took place in a kickboxing match, they wouldn't win standing. There are plenty of fighters where the striker/grappler beat the pure striker standing in MMA. My point is it's the threat of takedowns and all the other aspects of grappling that give them the win standing. I do not think Jan would beat Izzy or Pereira in kickboxing or bareknuckle kickboxing, or any standup only fight. He may be able to beat both guys in MMA but it's because his game is well rounded. I don't care if he was able to outstrike both standing.

 

[JonnyBonesPharmacist]

Nope, Jan got his ass beat, Either by elevation, or Pereira, or both

 

[Nobru]

I don’t know if it was more the high altitude affecting or his age catching up to him but Jan’s cardio really set him back yesterday.

I am fully convinced that the Jan in his championship run would have knocked Pereira out in the second round. He was clearly the quicker and more effective striker in the phonebooth yesterday. It wasn’t until he was exhausted that Pereira started landing his shots.

really?
In case you not familiar, Jan was the guy with the broken nose, who did zero damage on the stand up a went for a td every time he could.
The other is Alex, who outlanded him with ease when the fight was on the stand up.

 

[Uke]

Pereira outlanded him 112-82 WHILE also totally destroying Jan leg to the point that 3-4 more leg kicks would have finished Jan

Actually it would've been 8 kicks

 

[Dana's Conscience]

Jan's striking was also a function of it being an MMA fight. Alex had to mind the takedown.

With that being said, Alex should have really let his hands go in the 3rd more than he did once it became clear that Jan was too tired to take him down again.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

The guy gassed himself out desperately trying to avoid striking with a fresh Pereira. I mean, that pretty much says everything.

I can't disagree with that but shooting doesn't mean you aren't the better striker 100%. It might just mean you are vastly superior in grappling and have an actual fight IQ. That's all I am saying.

 

[Bojka]

The better striker doesn't shoot within the first 10 seconds. Just saying.

Yeah Jan used the Poirier strategy against Conor. Shoot immediately and establish the takedown threat/tire his opponent out. That doesn't make him a better striker even if he managed to win the striking with such a strategy.

 

[Neck&Neck]

I agree
He was the better dresser on the night, too
Fighting a HW weight cutter in potan is no easy task

 

[Busgosu]

lol gotta love sherdog, D1 Jan shot for a TD almost before the bell rang and almost all his shots standing were pitter patter half assed jabs and yet somehow he's the better striker!

 

[Number11]

I don’t know if it was more the high altitude affecting or his age catching up to him but Jan’s cardio really set him back yesterday.

I am fully convinced that the Jan in his championship run would have knocked Pereira out in the second round. He was clearly the quicker and more effective striker in the phonebooth yesterday. It wasn’t until he was exhausted that Pereira started landing his shots.

No, Jan's face was cracked but he is one though fighter, most would have folded but not Jan. He put up a good fight in a somewhat "bad" showing from both guys

I thought Jan had the rear choke in the 1st round

 

[LoveSherdogThisTime]

God this place sucks

Low energy individual

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Low energy individual

Almost as low as the energy you've put into this troll thread, but not nearly as low the IQ it took to think it up

 

[LoveSherdogThisTime]

Almost as low as the energy you've put into this troll thread, but not nearly as low the IQ it took to think it up

Low energy response. Poor guy always negative because he's exhausted.

 

[Paul E Gensinger]

I don’t know if it was more the high altitude affecting or his age catching up to him but Jan’s cardio really set him back yesterday.

I am fully convinced that the Jan in his championship run would have knocked Pereira out in the second round. He was clearly the quicker and more effective striker in the phonebooth yesterday. It wasn’t until he was exhausted that Pereira started landing his shots.

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