Crime Jan 6th

I think J6 and S11 are similiar as they both echo the sacking of Rome and the downfall of civil societies. Also what other tragic events in the US are remembered by the date it happened? Pearl harbour? Boston bombing? WTC bombing?
There is NOTHING similar. I had friends and relatives die in 9/11. To compare it is such bullshit. There was no downfall of anything, they were just events. One event is not even in the same realm. The BLM riots caused more damage and deaths than J6. You want to compare those 2 fine. But 9/11 and J6 are not remotely the same. Only a leftist with an agenda (like The View asshats) would say so.
 
far worse things than a public protest have happened in the US that you don't even know about, let alone are remembered for their date.
What I find rather amazing about the whole public protesting thing is liberals absolutely love making their signs, pitching their tents, blocking traffic, harassing law enforcement to make their voice heard about every tiny little thing the media said they should be outraged by.

Then when the Democrat party throws out every single one of their votes, completely disregarding the official voice of the entire party, not a single sign, tent, blocked traffic lane, or harassed law enforcement officer is seen.
 
But again its not like Biden and Kamala gave the rioters a time and a place to riot like Trump did. Not to mention to this day Trump defends the rioters while mainstream Dems condemend the rioting. Sure people like Maxine Waters said more ifnlammatory stuff but Maxine Waters is not the head of the Democratic Party like Trump is the head of the GOP.

There is no comparison, Trump even ran on pardoning the Jan 6th rioters and on retaliating against those on the Jan 6thcommittee. It would be like Biden running on pardoning all the BLM rioters and on investigating anyone who arrested and convicted them.
Goddamn, this is a quite pretzel you're twisting yourself into to come up with some excuse for why it's (D)ifferent when you support violence. The one thing you're right about is there is no comparison. There wasn't a "time and place" because it was in every metro area in the country for damn near half a year, and Harris linked a fucking bail fund in case the cops did their fucking jobs and arrested these cunts for attacking complete strangers, specifically said "they shouldn't stop and we shouldn't stop", and so did democrat congress members, mayors, governors, and the guy who just ran for VP specifically called off national guard while his wife was whiffing fumes from the fires, and gave his creepy ass daughter non-public information so she could help rioters avoid law enforcement.

6 months straight all over the country, billions in damages, dozens murdered and thousands injured vs a couple hours of protest and the only murder being a pussy cop with a history of firearm misuse shooting an unarmed girl in the throat for trespassing to applause from the entire democrat party and media.
 
Goddamn, this is a quite pretzel you're twisting yourself into to come up with some excuse for why it's (D)ifferent when you support violence. The one thing you're right about is there is no comparison. There wasn't a "time and place" because it was in every metro area in the country for damn near half a year, and Harris linked a fucking bail fund in case the cops did their fucking jobs and arrested these cunts for attacking complete strangers, specifically said "they shouldn't stop and we shouldn't stop", and so did democrat congress members, mayors, governors, and the guy who just ran for VP specifically called off national guard while his wife was whiffing fumes from the fires, and gave his creepy ass daughter non-public information so she could help rioters avoid law enforcement.

6 months straight all over the country, billions in damages, dozens murdered and thousands injured vs a couple hours of protest and the only murder being a pussy cop with a history of firearm misuse shooting an unarmed girl in the throat for trespassing to applause from the entire democrat party and media.
Kamala was referring to peaceful protests when she said that on Colbert's show. Beforehand she had said this
Harris, a U.S. senator who previously served as California's attorney general, said she supported peaceful protesters.

"We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice," Harris said in a speech from a university auditorium in Washington streamed online.
As far Walz, even Trump praised his handling of the riots.
 
There is NOTHING similar.

Both were an attack on our country. One was perpetrated by Anti-American Islamic terrorists, and the other by Anti-American traitors (and of course, spurred on by the biggest traitor of all—Donald Trump).

I know you want to minimize the seriousness of January 6 at all costs because it's a stain you can't quite seem to rinse away (much like Trump's criminal history), but I assure you it's there for good, and it's wholly owned by Trump and his supporters (just like the next 4+ years), whether you like it or not. And of course it's not just January 6th, but the entire disgusting campaign of lies regarding the 2020 election results. January 6th was merely a culmination of that.

Saying whether it's worse than 9/11 is irrelevant. They're different kinds of attacks. One was an attack from the outside with the intent of killing as many people as possible and sowing chaos. The other was an attack from within with the intent of destroying our democracy. History alone will determine which caused more lasting harm.
 
Right and I stand by it in light of your objection not really making sense.
Please explain exactly what doesn't make sense.

This is what you said:
It would be like Biden running on pardoning all the BLM rioters and on investigating anyone who arrested and convicted them.
And I said:
Considering barely a fraction of the BLM rioters were actually arrested and, on top of that, hundreds of these charges were later dropped, that's not a good comparison at all.
You were comparing pardoning January 6 rioters to pardoning BLM rioters. Tell me, how many convictions were there for the BLM riots vs how many convictions for January 6th?

How so? Most of those arrests would've been at the local level right? In fact the BLM riots happened during Trump's term, not Biden's. How would Biden be at fault for that?
This was a nonsensical question to ask, since you were the one who made the initial comparison.
 
Kamala was referring to peaceful protests when she said that on Colbert's show. Beforehand she had said this

As far Walz, even Trump praised his handling of the riots.

Unless of course it's a protest they don't like, then it's "yes we should confuse grannies walking around taking selfies with people breaking a window or shoving people". Trump did say "peacefully and patriotically protest", but somehow it's code for riot when it's someone you don't like, but when Harris specifically raises money to bail out violent rioters and says "they shouldn't stop and we shouldn't stop", Maxine Waters says "we have to get MORE confrontational and get in people's faces".

Did you miss the "in the last couple of days" where Trump was specifically contrasting Walz finally getting his shit together and accepting national guard after giving rioters a week to burn down the biggest metro area in his state while his wife kicked back and opened the windows to enjoy the noxious fumes from the city burning?

Even now it's mockingly referred to as "the summer of love" and "fiery but mostly peaceful" because those were literal quotes from democrats and media performing a preposterous gymnastics routine to avoid criticizing violent riots, and the mayor of Portland was scared to criticize them even after having to flee his own building because they were setting fires in it.
 
You were comparing pardoning January 6 rioters to pardoning BLM rioters. Tell me, how many convictions were there for the BLM riots vs how many convictions for January 6th?
How is that relevant here? The justice system does its work and then the president can decide to pardon if he thinks the conviction was unjust. Trump thinks any consequences for Jan 6th are unjust because those are his people.

Regardless, seems there were ~120 federal convictions relating to BLM riots with sentencing ranging from no prison time to five years.
An Associated Press review of court documents in more than 300 federal cases stemming from the protests sparked by George Floyd’s death last year shows that dozens of people charged have been convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison.

The AP found that more than 120 defendants across the United States have pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial of federal crimes including rioting, arson and conspiracy. More than 70 defendants who’ve been sentenced so far have gotten an average of about 27 months behind bars. At least 10 received prison terms of five years or more.
This was a nonsensical question to ask, since you were the one who made the initial comparison.
I made the comparison between what Trump did and a hypothetical Biden campaign, not the real one.
 
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  • Was it 140 or 170???
  • who got shot in the face and by whom?
  • so the cops were attacking the protesters. not surprised.
1. Depends how you define injury.
2. Some dipshit got shot in the face by secret service.
3. Me either. They had every right to do so
 
1. Depends how you define injury.
2. Some dipshit got shot in the face by secret service.
3. Me either. They had every right to do so

  • Any of the complaints by the pansies in the Capitol Police are not defined as injuries.
  • Yes, some DEI moron murdered Ashli Babbit. No one else was killed as a result of the protest. A lot of obese cops with cardiovascular disease tripped on their own shoelaces.
  • And Trump has every right to pardon any and all January 6th hostages.
 
  • Any of the complaints by the pansies in the Capitol Police are not defined as injuries.
  • Yes, some DEI moron murdered Ashli Babbit. No one else was killed as a result of the protest. A lot of obese cops with cardiovascular disease tripped on their own shoelaces.
  • And Trump has every right to pardon any and all January 6th hostages.
This dude?
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And this guy?
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This dude was clearly just helping the cop up.
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Pardon this Mitch headberg lookin kid for doing this:
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Pardon:
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In some cultures it’s an honor to be beaten with a weapon. Pardon!

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Trump thinks any consequences for Jan 6th are unjust because those are his people.
Source?

Regardless, seems there were ~120 federal convictions relating to BLM riots with sentencing ranging from no prison time to five years.
Considering those riots lasted half a year almost and were spread across the country, that is an absurdly low number. With January 6th, which took place over a few hours in one day, there's been at least 1,400 people charged and over 900 of them have been convicted.

I made the comparison between what Trump did and a hypothetical Biden campaign, not the real one.
I'm saying your hypothetical comparison is not as good one to make.
 
The fact that he's talked about pardoning them?
Considering those riots lasted half a year almost and were spread across the country, that is an absurdly low number. With January 6th, which took place over a few hours in one day, there's been at least 1,400 people charged and over 900 of them have been convicted.
Those charges I listed are simply federal charges. In the case of Jan 6th it happened at the Capitol which falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government hence all the charges relating to it are federal but that's not the case with BLM riots where some of the relevant crimes are state charges.
I'm saying your hypothetical comparison is not as good one to make.
And I disagree.
 

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