James Toney v Marvin Hagler

[treelo]

Got thinking about this today, and while i think Toney is the better technical boxer, i just think he lacked output at times, and coupled with Haglers resilience, i feel 8/10 Hagler would have won the fight on points

I think on the odd accasion we could have seen Hagler stopped on cuts, but i think it would have been few and far between.

Love both these fighters, they both have amazing qualities as fighter, i dont think if Hagler had of had the same cut he did against Hearns, that he would have been able to stop Toney, other than the Jones mistake, i dont remember him ever going down or being hurt in the slightest

Would have been a match-up for the time, imagine Toney was just a decade younger, he would have been in there with the fantastic 4

 

[cblitz]

I would favor Hagler.

 

[Goatenstein]

I think I'd go Hagler by UD

 

[Tatra]

Toney lost to Drake Thadzi and Montell Griffin twice. He thought of himself as some defensive genius but he's too inactive and could be outworked.

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

Hagler wins every round...

 

[zapataxiv]

Hagler is the heavy favorite.

Toney was extremely talented but his laziness has also always been part of personality.
his feet were always lacking

Hagler is a South paw workhorse who is a marvelous boxer in his own right. not too mention he had plenty of power and was tough as a rock.

if it's 15 rounds I think Hagler brings the war to every front and Toney crumbles

 

[KeepingItReal]

Hagler is the heavy favorite.

Toney was extremely talented but his laziness has also always been part of personality.
his feet were always lacking

Hagler is a South paw workhorse who is a marvelous boxer in his own right. not too mention he had plenty of power and was tough as a rock.

if it's 15 rounds I think Hagler brings the war to every front and Toney crumbles

What you did there, I see it. This is very good, very good.

 

[StopDucking]

Toney was inconsistent but his peaks were phenomenal. Toney at his worst would lose to Hagler but Toney at his best would beat him, easily.

Hagler lost to a WW, Toney beat the HW champion. The version of Toney that destroyed Iran Barkley would never, ever lose to a WW.

 

[treelo]

Toney was inconsistent but his peaks were phenomenal. Toney at his worst would lose to Hagler but Toney at his best would beat him, easily.

Hagler lost to a WW, Toney beat the HW champion. The version of Toney that destroyed Iran Barkley would never, ever lose to a WW.

this is somewhat is a spin on things

Leonard wasnt a welterweight when he beat Hagler
Toney hasnt ever beaten THE heavyweight champion, infact, he hasnt ever beaten a then current champion

 

[StewDogg11]

You could always count on Hagler to come in in tip top shape. Toney might come in with man boobs and a gut. While even then he could still beat most fighters Hagler wasn’t most fighters. Hagler via easy decision as Toney had one of the best chins of all-time.

 

[StewDogg11]

Toney was inconsistent but his peaks were phenomenal. Toney at his worst would lose to Hagler but Toney at his best would beat him, easily.

Hagler lost to a WW, Toney beat the HW champion. The version of Toney that destroyed Iran Barkley would never, ever lose to a WW.

Toney beat John Ruiz while on steroids…

Quite the spin you’ve put on things here.

 

[djacobox372]

Toney would beat hagler.

Hagler struggled against the in-fighting of old-fart Duran, Toney would tear him up.

 

[StewDogg11]

Toney would beat hagler.

Hagler struggled against the in-fighting of old-fart Duran, Toney would tear him up.

Fat dreadlocked Toney would not beat Hagler…

 

[treelo]

i wonder how many people never actually saw Toney's early fights against McCallum and his fights at MW, it doesnt seem like a lot if you think Toney was always just a fat bloke

 

[treelo]

Fat dreadlocked Toney would not beat Hagler…

i've never seen Toney with a single hair on his head ever, not sure what you are referencing here

 

[Mujeriego]

i've never seen Toney with a single hair on his head ever, not sure what you are referencing here

He had a little hair early on.

 

[mozfonky]

Marvin just based on his discipline and his versatility. Both had all time chins so no knockout. Depending on which james shows up could be a real difficult one.

 

[StewDogg11]

i've never seen Toney with a single hair on his head ever, not sure what you are referencing here

I can’t find it but some fight on ESPN in the late 90s he showed up fat and out of shape and had dreadlocks. Here’s a pick proving he’s not bald though and with more than a single hair on his head:

 

[Fluffernutter]

Harry Greb

 

[Stormtrooper85]

Seems like there's a lot of the worst version of Toney vs the best version of Hagler in here.

James Toney at Middleweight at his best would be a massive problem for Hagler