Jack Slack article on Anderson Silva leg break

kflo said:
I have not heard them say they were baiting for kicks.
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they don't have to be.

They just have to be trying to deal out damage with the checked kick and then if damage occurs, minor to major, it is all within the expected range of results.

thechoice2 said:
Why do you believe that a fluke win means you don't get full credit?
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Read the thread and those being replied to.
 
TheonGreyJoy said:
Checking a leg kick is done for the same reason throwing a leg kick is done. You want to hurt your opponents leg and change the way he is fighting or take away some of his tools.
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That is just bullshit. Checking a kick is done primarily because eating kicks sucks. A secondary objective is to dissuade. If you had a choice between eating a kick and checking one, which would you pick? That's why you check kicks. If it can dissuade your opponent at the same time even better.
 
TheonGreyJoy said:
yes absolutely. wow do people not know what these words mean?

If something occurs 1 out of 1,000 or 1 out of 10,000 times WE EXPECT it to happen once within 1,000 or 10,000 fights. It should not be a shock that it happens once within 1,000 or 10,000 fights as that is the normal occurrence rate.

in this case we expect check kick leg breaks, orbital bone breaks, cheek bone breaks which are rare injuries to occur normally but only in a small percent of fights. Just as we actually see it happen only in a small percent of fights.

Do people on this site think something that occurs rarely means it should NEVER happen? Rare =/= never.
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Rare means that it's abnormal. Rare doesn't mean that it never occurs and this is why you're making idiotic points throughout this thread.

1 in 10,000 means that it's an abnormal occurrence. The fact that it occurs 10 times in 100,000 outcomes is a normal occurrence rate but each of the 10 occurrences weren't normal.
 
TheonGreyJoy said:
they don't have to be.

They just have to be trying to deal out damage with the checked kick and then if damage occurs, minor to major, it is all within the expected range of results.

Read the thread and those being replied to.
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He said they were setting him up to throw predictable kicks. That's what I was responding to.
 
THECYNDlCATE said:
Are you mad I pointed out something you can't refute, so you start insulting me?

Thanks for the confirmation.
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No, he is pointing out that your level of reading comprehension is lamentable. Obviously your point is refuted by the article himself as well as by numerous occurences where ppl. got hurt sometimes as badly as AS when their low kicks where met by a knee. Weather 'luck' played a role in that is not even disputable. Of course it did - but not more as with any strike against a moving target.
 
JC Komo said:
Another thing is posters like you, I have had ever post of mine quoted and me being called an idiot (Even though I have been fighting for nearly 10 years in MT and Kickboxing) by keyboard warriors.
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Took many shots to the head did you?
 
Groundmaster said:
No, he is pointing out that your level of reading comprehension is lamentable. Obviously your point is refuted by the article himself as well as by numerous occurences where ppl. got hurt sometimes as badly as AS when their low kicks where met by a knee. Weather 'luck' played a role in that is not even disputable. Of course it did - but not more as with any strike against a moving target.
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we're calling checks a strike now?
 
It is possible for the kick check to be perfectly executed and for the leg not to snap - checking the kick this way is to maximise the damage the check does but not to snap a leg - that is a possible consequence but not the desired effect. When two moving bodies connect it's never going to be an exact science is it but working on checking kicks in a specific way is going to increase the likelihood of a kick being checked in the exact manner you trained for.
 
kflo said:
we're calling checks a strike now?
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Weidman has single handedly turned Sherdog's views on leg checks into something it's simply never been before lol. Plus Jack Slack is a notorious Silva hater so of course he'd be on the "100% skill, 0% luck/fluke" train. As if he's always believed leg checks are meant to break legs and never had a 2nd thought about fights ending like this.

Manuwa ends fights off bizarre injury = "Voodoo"
Weidman does it = pure talent and skill
lol​
 
how is he concluding that weidman intentionally was trying to draw a kick out of silva?

chris had no set up on his kick either. but his was a trap?
 
THECYNDlCATE said:
So,.. how often has that worked for Mr. Vunak?

With your insults, I hope to God you have at least 30 examples of him breaking legs with his "technique".

This shouldn't be too much to ask,.. since he has been teaching it "for decades on end".
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i guess when andersons opponents have bruises on their forehead andersons ko shots to the chin were a fluke. nobody aims for the forehead, right?

weidman was trying to check kicks. weidman checked kicks
 
kflo said:
how is he concluding that weidman intentionally was trying to draw a kick out of silva?

chris had no set up on his kick either. but his was a trap?
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Well, Weidman's kick had some good impact - Anderson's body got shaken visibly.

We will never really know, of course, but it's quite possible that it had 'forced' Silva to try some retaliation.
 
Karelinator said:
Well, Weidman's kick had some good impact - Anderson's body got shaken visibly.

We will never really know, of course, but it's quite possible that it had 'forced' Silva to try some retaliation.
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He's making an assertion with nothing to support it.
 
kflo said:
we're calling checks a strike now?
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We cannot read now? I said hitting a moving object with a strike is just as much a matter of luck as checking it is. Luck is a part of it (you can never be a 100% sure how your opponent is going to move as you can never be a 100% sure that a kick is coming in at a certain height and angle) but so is ability.

To insinuate that every kick checked this way would lead to a broken leg would be harebrained ( and I have not yet actually seen sb make that claim ) - but so would be insinuating that every head strike leads to a knock out. Yet while a lot of the posters here disqualify the former as pure luck they will not do so with the later.

Actively trying to check your opponents leg with your knee is much like throwing strikes at him - you try to hurt him. That the former also helps in not getting hurt does not mean you are not hoping for it - otherwise it would be wiser to check with the lower shin.
 
TH1RTE3N said:
Weidman has single handedly turned Sherdog's views on leg checks into something it's simply never been before lol. Plus Jack Slack is a notorious Silva hater so of course he'd be on the "100% skill, 0% luck/fluke" train. As if he's always believed leg checks are meant to break legs and never had a 2nd thought about fights ending like this.

Manuwa ends fights off bizarre injury = "Voodoo"
Weidman does it = pure talent and skill
lol​
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Jimmo hurt his knee moving - NOT on a body part of his opponent deliberately placed in the way of his kicks.

Oh and calling Jack Slack a notorious Silva hater shows how for up your ass your head is. Jack saw weaknesses in Silvas game and pointed them out. He himself calls Silve the most prolific striker in MMA to date. If pointing out his weaknesses seems like hating to you you should go seek professional help.
 
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