Jack Slack article on Anderson Silva leg break

[egk]

You can full expect that someone will win the jackpot in the Megamillions drawing in the future as well. It's an expected result, being the person that wins that jackpot drawing means you're lucky. Just because a result is in the range of possibility doesn't make it any less lucky/unlucky when it occurs.

Accent on "Someone". In this case it wasn't someone but a specific person. In your example, Chris played the lottery by cheating by adding weights to rig the ping pong balls.

 

[Scott Lawlor]

Idiot fans, go to this thread. You may learn something.

 

[kflo]

false. see above.

How have you typically scored checked kicks?

 

[thechoice2]

Accent on "Someone". In this case it wasn't someone but a specific person. In your example, Chris played the lottery by cheating by adding weights to rig the ping pong balls.

I'm pretty sure the post I quoted didn't specifically mention Weidman but instead mentioned the possible results of a checked leg kick, then went on to say that someone in the future of MMA will also break their leg by having their kick checked.

Since you want to place an accent on "Someone" in my post, go back to the guy that you agree with and have him give a specific name to the next fighter it will happen to/against.

 

[ronen]

From the article:

The neatest thing about both is that Weidman kicked first to draw a kick out of Silva. Weidman is not a particularly good kicker, but both times he kicked, Silva kicked back immediately, and Weidman was able to check.

So it's settled then, Weidman hobbled an all time great on purpose.

This is gonna really mess with Aldo's game.

 

[kflo]

Did Weidman claim to try to draw kicks from silva?

 

[egk]

I'm pretty sure the post I quoted didn't specifically mention Weidman but instead mentioned the possible results of a checked leg kick, then went on to say that someone in the future of MMA will also break their leg by having their kick checked.

Since you want to place an accent on "Someone" in my post, go back to the guy that you agree with and have him give a specific name to the next fighter it will happen to/against.

Ok. I'm pretty sure we're on an MMA forum and in a thread talking about whether Weidman's victory was a fluke or not. Silly me for thinking you were keeping to the subject.

But I'll play your game anyway. Since someone has to win the lottery, it's not a fluke when they do. It's a statistical improbability that a specific person will buy a ticket and win but it's not a fluke that someone does.

Again, what it comes down to is the use of the word fluke. Everyone on the forum knows Silva apologists are using that and the word "accident" to discredit Weidman's win so they can act like Silva is still the better fighter. They called the KO in the first fight a fluke too. Two flukes in succession? That's some lottery.

 

[kflo]

Talk about a strawman. No one in this thread is arguing about who the better fighter is.

Weidman checked a kick. Got the w.

 

[kflo]

The winner of the lottery must be good at lottery.

At least Weidman checked a kick.

 

[Stev3]

People are actually complaining about leg checks? You guys should stop watching MMA and go watch boxing (nothing wrong with boxing)

 

[Charles Lee Ray]

If Weidman didn't COUNTER the low leg kick would the same injury have happened? No.

The kick check is a legit counter strike. You can also get hurt blocking a kick or taking any kick.

If Anderson broke Weidman's leg on that same kick it would be considered a spectacular finish. Anderson was the aggressor and got countered. Leg kick counters get no respect and people shit all over guys who don't check leg kicks.

 

[kflo]

People are actually complaining about leg checks? You guys should stop watching MMA and go watch boxing (nothing wrong with boxing)

Who is complaining about checks?

 

[thechoice2]

Ok. I'm pretty sure we're on an MMA forum and in a thread talking about whether Weidman's victory was a fluke or not. Silly me for thinking you were keeping to the subject.

But I'll play your game anyway. Since someone has to win the lottery, it's not a fluke when they do. It's a statistical improbability that a specific person will buy a ticket and win but it's not a fluke that someone does.

Again, what it comes down to is the use of the word fluke. Everyone on the forum knows Silva apologists are using that and the word "accident" to discredit Weidman's win so they can act like Silva is still the better fighter. They called the KO in the first fight a fluke too. Two flukes in succession? That's some lottery.

We are, then you should be asking the person you agreed with why he moved from discussing Weidman specifically onto some unnamed future fighters being involved in a similar situation.

It's not a fluke that the lottery is won because based on the sheer number of tickets sold and possible number combinations out there the likelihood for a winning ticket isn't improbable. A specific person winning that lottery is where it becomes a fluke when based on the number of tickets that one person has going against the possible number of winning combinations. It's flukey for that specific person to win.

I don't care what Silva fans say or why they say it. I'm a Silva fan and I will say the first fight wasn't a fluke, I will say Weidman has proved to be the better fighter twice now. I will also say the second fight was a fluke based on how it ended and this does not discredit Weidman's victory in any way to me.

 

[IamStryker]

That fact that he shows BOTH gifs of Chris checking the kicks, proves that the end result of the fight was, in fact a "fluke".

The point where the legs meet is random and you can't really plan for it.
You are hardly even thinking about it. You are just trying to check properly and counter.

Chris got lucky and the legs met in his favor.

Did he intend to break Silva's leg? NO.

His intention was to block the kick, take as little damage as possible and counter. You can even see his "oh shit" face when the kick is launched.

Is the win legitimate?
ABSOLUTELY.

This should put fighters on notice about low kicks and proper checking technique.

Even a long well written article by someone with more credentials that you won't convince you.

You are hopeless.

Edit: For anyone who didn't read it, Injuries from checked leg kicks like the one with Silva and Weidman (powershot on the knee) are not uncommon. The injury is rare due to those circumstances rarely happening in the cage. MMA fighters don't do a lot of leg checking and the fights where they do happen the fighters are either being much safer or not getting as properly checked on the knee as Weidman did against Silva.

Therefore, it was not a fluke.

 

[Pravus]

Proves the opposite?

Man,.. I am pretty sure it's everyone's strategy to block a kick that is coming at you.

The gifs show that is all he was doing. He was just checking them the best he could in order to block the damn kicks and set up a counter.

The breaking of the leg was a FREAK OCCURRENCE.

Getting struck by lightning is a freak occurrence....Silva breaking his leg was an unlikely result.

 

[MyPainYourGain]

I'm barely even a Weidman fan and I know that turning your knee into an oncoming leg kick is indeed a legitimate technique intended to cause damage.

Ernesto Hoost had been doing it long before Weidman.

And no one hesitated to give Hoost full credit for this win over Sefo.

b/c they know their sport and understand what is happening unlike THECYNDICATE and other delusional fans

 

[hockeytough]

"If you need a fighter to stand in front of you, kick his legs"


that's why this fight wasn't a fluke. Anderson NEEDED Weidman to stop moving.

It wasn't like Anderson was able to do a lot of effective striking and was throwing a kick to set up something.

Anderson was in desperate need of getting Weidman to slow down.

equals legit win.


edit: " If an opponent is kicking without set up, or his set ups are predictable, there aren't many better options than attempting to injure the kicking leg by checking with the knee and the top of the shin."

Anderson was forced to become predictable because nothing else was working for him.

 

[MaTaLa]

Silva's KO of Belfort w/ a front kick was a fluke. We still don't know who the better fighter is.

 

[kflo]

Even a long well written article by someone with more credentials that you won't convince you.

You are hopeless.

What are their relative credentials?

 

[THECYNDlCATE]

Getting struck by lightning is a freak occurrence....Silva breaking his leg was an unlikely result.

More people get struck by lightning, than have their shins broke by checking kicks.