Jack Slack article on Anderson Silva leg break

[MMouse]

Silvas shin was damaged earlier in the fight by another checked kick.

This omfg lol how is this going 16pages

- Silva was careless in both fights. Hands down 1st and not setting up leg kicks in 2nd

- Weidman trained to check kicks but not to the extent in breaking Silva's leg

 

[Otto!]

Great stuff from Jack, as always.

 

[Baianada]

Silvas shin was damaged earlier in the fight by another checked kick.

A shin breaking like that is a result of accumulated damage over a long period of time. A series of micro-fractures.

The shin bone is a freaking hard and durable bone. Even if you want you can't break it if it's healthy.

These are not my words, please ask an orthopedist if that's not true.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Why is Slack insulting Gleison Tibau's standup?

 

[MyPainYourGain]

A shin breaking like that is a result of accumulated damage over a long period of time. A series of micro-fractures.

The shin bone is a freaking hard and durable bone. Even if you want you can't break it if it's healthy.

These are not my words, please ask an orthopedist if that's not true.

it wasnt, it was damaged earlier in the fight by another checked leg kick.


Im just going to copy-paste it one more time in case you miss the 2nd one as you did the 1st one

it was damaged earlier in the fight by another checked leg kick.


highlighted it just for good measure

 

[kflo]

its used for both, protecting yourself and hurting your opponent, there is no way to disput that, its a fact

Yes, just about every checked kick.

 

[TheComebackKid]

lol and you know that how?

pure speculation

Well what other logical reason would someone would their arm out to break a fall?

you gave zero credit to Weidman before a fight and now after two rather easy wins over Silva you give him no credit at all

Oh shut up. I've repeatedly said that Weidman has proven he's legit.

but you are known for your Silva/Rampage nuthuggery and Fedor/Shogun hate, so no sruprise at all

All great fighters who help make this sport what it is.

 

[Karp]

Thanks for sharing. Always enjoy reading Jack Slack's articles.

 

[Chubz]

So many fucking idiots running their mouths these days.

Please do yourselves a favor and talk to an actual orthopedist (you know, people who are scientists not bros talking up their favorite martial arts) and ask him if it's possible to break a healthy shin in half by kicking another human being's leg. It's not. One's shin has to be already very damaged to break like that, that's why it was a freaky occurrence. It's not normal. There's no technique to break one's shin.

Silvas shin was damaged earlier in the fight by another checked kick.

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

 

[MyPainYourGain]

Well what other logical reason would someone would their arm out to break a fall?


All great fighters who help make this sport what it is.

they would do it to break a fall, you said he did it b/c he would have taken the full force and been hurt by it which is a pure speculation (that he would have been hurt by it part)

facts are -> you dont anckle pick someone to hurt them while you check a leg kick to hurt them, that is undesputable, Im not even sure what is your point,


that is true its just that your love for Silva/Rampage and hate for Fedor/Shogun is borderline unhealthy

 

[YoungBoyd]

The point about setting up the kick is excellent. However in mma you have more options than in kickboxing/mt so you usually can get away with sloppy techniques. On the other hand, the lack of TD threat from Anderson Silva leaves very few options for him when one thinks about it. Weidman knows those lowkicks might be coming and when not properly set up he can check them. But one must also remember that silva is afraid to overcommit with striking because of the threat of the TD, so this isn't as easy as you people might think as far as just setting up a lowkick.

 

[kflo]

Checking kicks is now a devastating offensive maneuver.

 

[YoungBoyd]

Anderson fan here, but I agree with him.
Weidman improved his kick defense before the second fight, Anderson didn't set up the kick.
Weidman evolved, Anderson did not..
I wish Anderson had used more high kicks...

It's not that easy to set up low kicks against a guy who moves very well, has distance control and can take him down at anytime. Jose Aldo is successful on setting up combos, but one must remember that he is in his athletic prime and his TD defense is far superior that of Silvas.

 

[MMouse]

The point about setting up the kick is excellent. However in mma you have more options than in kickboxing/mt so you usually can get away with sloppy techniques. On the other hand, the lack of TD threat from Anderson Silva leaves very few options for him when one thinks about it. Weidman knows those lowkicks might be coming and when not properly set up he can check them. But one must also remember that silva is afraid to overcommit with striking because of the threat of the TD, so this isn't as easy as you people might think as far as just setting up a lowkick.

True, setting up low kicks arent easy but then one would be smart enough not to throw leg kick full blasts with no setup. Why risks the injury. High level thai figthers do this all the time.

 

[Prime Yossarian]

I did muay thai for a little over 2 years and we always trained to turn the hip over in low kicks and to block with the knee when you could.

I can't remember how many of my friends who got would play fight me would be on the ground holding their shins after one checked leg kick.

The aim in checking is both to defend and to injure. The actual break occured because the kick was thrown with ferocious speed and checked perfectly.

And it is very possible to snap a previously uninjured shin with one perfect check on a kick at the speed Silva throws them

 

[YoungBoyd]

True, setting up low kicks arent easy but then one would be smart enough not to throw leg kick full blasts with no setup. Why risks the injury. High level thai figthers do this all the time.

In retrospective he should not have done those lowkicks. However Silva is not going to win the fight if he is inactive. Sooner or later it becomes a question of how he is going to win the fight. When your options are limited you must take certain risks. He took a risk and it didn't work out. Shit happens.

 

[chaoticmayhem]

Weidman said immediately after the fight he was purposely trying to block Silva's kicks with his knee. Of course he didn't know he would peg leg Silva but the purpose of using the knee to block is to not only defend himself but to cause damage or injury to the other person.

It's a legit technique that's been around for a long time not some lucky crap he happened into.

The people saying it's a "fluke" are the same ones that said the knockout in the 1st fight was a "fluke". They said if Silva wasn't goofing around he wouldn't have gotten knocked out. Well, Silva took the advice of the people clinging to his nuts and came out like old Silva...and promptly got his leg broke.

 

[MMouse]

In retrospective he should not have done those lowkicks. However Silva is not going to win the fight if he is inactive. Sooner or later it becomes a question of how he is going to win the fight. When your options are limited you must take certain risks. He took a risk and it didn't work out. Shit happens.

On being inactive, im pretty sure anderson has more options then relying on leg kicks to beat weidman

 

[TheonGreyJoy**]

I wish this would end this discussion but pathetic Anderson uber fans will not accept it.

T...he check is easy to overlook because it is considered a passive movement. It is not actively striking, it seems a purely defensive action.

Yet the leg check is by far the most valuable asset in one's game against a good kicker because it actively discourages him from kicking and has a good chance of punishing him if he does.

"good chance" of punishing him does not mean guarantee and it does not speak to the extent. It could be something as minor as just hurting the kicker a tiny bit or hurting him a lot and making him not want to kick anymore and in the extreme it could break the leg.

Not knowing or planning the outcome does not mean you did not mean to do damage.

 

[YoungBoyd]

On being inactive, im pretty sure anderson has more options then relying on leg kicks to beat weidman

His leg kicks are the only thing he had over Weidman in those two fights. He had to set up the knock out, and leg kicks too slow him down looked like a decent gameplan.