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I've never been a Jon Jones hater but...

Modern day David & Goliath?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: yall the same height.

Lol and he's supposed to come from a church background.
 
Slatersan said:
If jones can get touched up by dom reyes Ngannou will clobber him to death
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not even close to true....reyes is far faster, far more accurate and doesn't wind up from 10 miles away to throw punches....ngannue does.
 
BRASIL WAND said:
LOL at Ngannou walking anyone down, he just charges forward with his chin up and his hips exposed. Jon would take him down in the blink of an eye

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Yeah, just like Santos and Reyes. He just murdered them on the ground right? And since Ng is stronger than both of them put together it will be even easier. And lol that Jones is even a shadow of his former self or that his former self could even hang with Stipe
 
GoshiShun17 said:
I've never been a Jones hater. In fact in the past I put him in my top 5 favorites all time and he probably still is but DAMN this man is just really unlikable. And I never use that phrase.

I'm not even talking about the steroids scandals and his out of the cage drama. He's just an overall corny guy. The way he chooses to go about his trash talk is extra lame. Anyway enough of me being randomly triggered.

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Of all the things he's done, this is also where I draw the line. I just ripped down all of my Jon Jones posters off the wall and had a good cry in the dark. I think I'm good now
 
Captain Herb said:
From what I've seen, Francis is like whatever dude, you're on crack
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Francis is trying to slow play it lol. He’s probably Salivating over the chance to crack jons chin.


the thing I wonder is.. what does Uber Jon look like like. That could be scary
 
Druken_Vovchanchyn said:
Francis is trying to slow play it lol. He’s probably Salivating over the chance to crack jons chin.


the thing I wonder is.. what does Uber Jon look like like. That could be scary
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Uber Jon needs several cycles minimum while USADA is looking the other way and even then, he needs to develop real power. Having no power in the HW is a death sentence
 
Captain Herb said:
Yeah, just like Santos and Reyes. He just murdered them on the ground right? And since Ng is stronger than both of them put together it will be even easier. And lol that Jones is even a shadow of his former self or that his former self could even hang with Stipe
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Scrambling or takedown defense isn’t about strength. Quite the opposite actually.

It’s about skill and fluidity, which Ngannou severely lacks in both. It’s also VERY taxing on the cardio... you can box for 12 rounds straight and it wouldn’t be nearly as taxing on cardio and muscle fatigue as a couple scrambles. It’s one advantage being lighter and having more speed and flexibility has in grappling.


There’s not a lot of heavyweights who can scramble my friend. That’s why I think DC and Stipe would be Jones biggest challenges at HW, for their sole ability to grapple like smaller men.

Ngannou would be a walk in the park for Jones imo
 
Making fun of smith over the home invasion. Then again over it and the glover loss.
<Sansa00>
 
BRASIL WAND said:
Why do people assume Ngannou is anywhere near as fast and accurate as Dom or has the takedown defense to keep him upright?

Jones has one of the highest fight IQ’s in the sport, he adapts his style to every opponent. In this case he broke Dom by round 3, Ngannou would be sucking wind 3 minutes into the fight.
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Dom needs to beat a few more guys in the division that matter. His biggest win is weidman. Come on. We talking about the goat...but to your point. I doubt Francis is faster than reyes
 
I Lie To Girls said:
Cain did alright.
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True, but you need to be a real high level grappler to survive at HW without power. Cain, Werdum, Brock to an extent could do it. As good as Jon's grappling looked at LHW, I don't think it translates to HW and now that he's on a steep decline in that respect, I really doubt it's a factor at all. I mean if 205 Reyes can just stand back up after Jon's takedown, what's Ngannou going to do, flounder around on his back?
 
USADA Jones wants to go where the competition is slower and gasses faster.

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Captain Herb said:
True, but you need to be a real high level grappler to survive at HW without power. Cain, Werdum, Brock to an extent could do it. As good as Jon's grappling looked at LHW, I don't think it translates to HW and now that he's on a steep decline in that respect, I really doubt it's a factor at all. I mean if 205 Reyes can just stand back up after Jon's takedown, what's Ngannou going to do, flounder around on his back?
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Added weight and possibly more muscle might allow him a better ground control as well. All speculation, but its something to consider.
 
I Lie To Girls said:
Added weight and possibly more muscle might allow him a better ground control as well. All speculation, but its something to consider.
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The thing is, I believe Jon's recent reluctance to wrestle is related to decreased cardio from lack of supplements and wear and tear over the years. I think his relative lack of aggressiveness in general shows his need to pace himself so as not to gas out. If he adds a bunch of muscle mass, His cardio will suffer even more and further limit any grappling he may want to do.
 
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