Opinion I've been saying it starts at home.

deadon said:
I just told you, DAs like gascon in LA are letting selective races out of jail. You can look it up yourself. He's now being recalled because of this.
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Thats anecdotal. Show me something systemic, it doesn't even have to be peer reviewed. There is ample research on these matters. What races are most likely to be stopped by law enforcement is a good place for you to start.
 
avenue94 said:
Thats anecdotal. Show me something systemic, it doesn't even have to be peer reviewed. There is ample research on these matters. What races are most likely to be stopped by law enforcement is a good place for you to start.
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So you're telling me cops stop blacks more and they find what they're looking for and run them in? Hmm if I was a cop this sems like a easy way to enforce the law.
 
deadon said:
So you're telling me cops stop blacks more and they find what they're looking for and run them in? Hmm if I was a cop this sems like a easy way to enforce the law.
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That's what the lion's share of research has found.
 
Day Drinking said:
Singapore is just as much a democracy as thr USA. Your anti foreign bias is showing.

I don't want democracy, but that's unrelated.
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It absolutely is not lol. My bias as someone whose family is from the region is making me biased against Singapore?

Can you explain by what metric Singapore is a democracy?
 
Singapore isn't a democracy. I think the PAP or whatever it is called never lost an election. Don't get me wrong. It's a really nice place but it's highly conservative and everything is meticulously planned. Press is highly regulated and you can't really criticize the ruling party or leader. The politicians are highly litigious and that is how they silence opposition.
 
You put that little fucker in almost any home, and he's going to turn out a violent piece of shit.

Genetics my friends.

It's not just black kids either. Read about some of the horor stories regarding adopting Russian babies.
Were talking 13 year olds that have never been shown anything but love and respect beating their mothers up and raping their adopted sisters.
 
deadon said:
I mean, you think? These people already get funds to stay home. They have programs for food, rent, phone, utilities, ect.

What else do you want?
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They want them to be statistically equal to other races in regards to income, education, crime rates etc.

They will throw money at these discrepancies until we're all equal. That's the end goal.
Money can't fix those discrepancies though. It can help narrow the gap, but the two biggest factors are culture and genetics unfortunately.
 
deadon said:
So you're telling me cops stop blacks more and they find what they're looking for and run them in? Hmm if I was a cop this sems like a easy way to enforce the law.
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Let's say you have two groups that commit crimes at relatively similar rates, which is what most studies indicate.

You police one group less, so you reveal less crime within that group, and the people within that group is proven to be treated less severely by the system so in the end it returns less incarcerations.

The other group is policed far more aggressively and while police actions return similar per capita instances of crime in the the end crime is found far more often in that group. That group is also prosecuted more aggressively and is less likely to be able to afford as good a defense so in the end it returns more incarcerations.

The numbers returned by these actions indicate there is more crime in one of the groups and so that policing of that group escalates. It's a feedback loop.

And a perfect example of systemic racism.

It's why stop and frisk was hated so much. If you stopped white people as often as you stopped black people you would have revealed just as much crime, although you would have been a lot less likely to prosecute, because they're white.
 
skold said:
Yeah "just be better guys" is not a realistic solution. Are you a child?
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No, I'm a grown man with wife and child. A child who was raised to be respectful and aware of the consequences of not being respectful.

What do you have against responsibility. Why can't others take accountability for their actions?

Why do you need to make excuses and pretend like people are helpless and can't improve?
 
bufetadanacara said:
No, I'm a grown man with wife and child. A child who was raised to be respectful and aware of the consequences of not being respectful.

What do you have against responsibility. Why can't others take accountability for their actions?

Why do you need to make excuses and pretend like people are helpless and can't improve?
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Because I live in the real world, not some magical imagination land where you can just wish responsibility and better life choices into existence.
 
Glad to see some right wingers have balls to say what the rest of them are thinking anyway: "genetics"

At least come out and admit your racism, you won't have to dance around it so hard
 
Loiosh said:
Let's say you have two groups that commit crimes at relatively similar rates, which is what most studies indicate.
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Let's say that one group is FAR smaller than the other, which throws your false equivalency statistics into the shitter and makes the comparison irrelevant. Let's just say...
 
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