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International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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From what I understand is Saudi Arabia uses Western weapons, but they can't maintenance them on their own. They need the West to do that. If the West stopped doing that, then they themselves become vulnerable. I would just expect them to stay out of it completely.

You also have to take in the fact they are trying to grow their economy and tourism sections and become less reliant on oil. This requires adopting some Western ideas and strategies. I actually think they've sort of become a pariah on their own within the Muslim world, or MBS himself has.
We have Raytheon factory’s , bases and jobs there , people are just clueless about SA and think it’s 2005.

Yea they are trying to grow they see what UAE and Qatar did. Doha and Dubai are top destinations in the world now and pretty nice places
 
Double Bonus Points to Mossad/IDF for carrying out a flawless operation...on Friday the 13th.

It's certainly turned out to be unlucky for a lot of Iranian military and scientists. 😈
 
I hope Israel has strong evidence to show they were preemptively striking Iran to stop some sort of imminent attack their intelligence caught, or something like that. This is extreme and could lead to some serious escalation of a territory that is already so volatile. I need to know WTF they were thinking here.
Evidence of what? It was all planned years ago.
 
Will be interesting to see how Trump reacts. But they shit on everyone, Trump might be the one to draw the line and tell them to fuck off (hopefully)
Trump being a clown is strong with the weaks and weak with the strongs.
 
We have Raytheon factory’s , bases and jobs there , people are just clueless about SA and think it’s 2005.

Yea they are trying to grow they see what UAE and Qatar did. Doha and Dubai are top destinations in the world now and pretty nice places
They see what Turkey is doing as well. They'd rather be more like Turkey than they would Iran. MBS is a part of a newer generation, it's definitely not the same leadership they had around 9/11.
 
I hope Israel has strong evidence to show they were preemptively striking Iran to stop some sort of imminent attack their intelligence caught, or something like that. This is extreme and could lead to some serious escalation of a territory that is already so volatile. I need to know WTF they were thinking here.
Israel is saying Iran now has enough U-235 (bomb grade Uranium) to build 10 individual bombs. Not sure where they got that information from or even if it is true. Regardless, they have to build the warhead and fit it into a missile. It would be in the kiloton range, but again, we don't know what that number is. Probably around 15 kilotons, like the Hiroshima bomb. Plutonium would have been a better option in my opinion. Faster to make. Pu-239.
 
October 7 has been an absolute catastrophe for Iranian influence.

yeah, taking other considerations aside for a second, I have to wonder exactly how complicit (or not) Iran was with Oct 7 because the Israeli response (and then the response of Hezbollah, and the response of Israel to the response of Hezbollah, lol) were all pretty damn predictable

Now all of a sudden out of the vaunted Shia crescent, Syria has gone to the Sunnis, Hezbollah is fucked, Hamas on life support and Iran is about to be turned into cinders whilst their proxies watch on helpless

well, i mean they have got the Houthis left I suppose, so I suppose the remaining option is fucking with the Hormuz straight

I'mma speculate that Iran and proxies fucking with the hormuz straight is pretty much the predictable repsone to/ outcome of this (simply because it is the only hit they can land) and that somehow Israel/etc will have some way of benefitting from the global economic/trade turmoil that results from the disruption of shipping.
 
Excellent, time for the UK and US to open up for even more Iranian migrants then.
 
People just don’t think it’s possible , you mean the Iran that supplies all these terrorist organization to carry attacks on Israel, USA military would be beyond using higher powered weapons ? They want to rule the region like Saddam did , hence gulf war. They would overrun UAE today if they could get that Dubai money .
Why would Iran give terrorists a nuke? You watch too many movies.
 
Then elaborate on what you mean by the magnitude. Russia is probably Iran's greatest ally and they won't do shit. Syria's Assad regime got overthrown. Hezbollah in Lebanon has been crippled. The Houthis in Yemen don't pose a serious threat and likely don't want to get their shit pushed in even further.

What magnitude are you referring too? The great powers of Iraq and Iran?
It's more the economic fallout. The region is not where you want disruption.
 
Excellent, time for the UK and US to open up for even more Iranian migrants then.

I'm fairly certain the response from MI5, Counter-Terrorism Command etc was,

"Oh, bugger".

IRGC has already tried to carry out kidnappings and assassination of Iranian dissidents living in the UK. That will almost certainly ramp up in the near future.
 
It's more the economic fallout. The region is not where you want disruption.

One of my first thoughts, after I'd stopped laughing, was to wonder how long it will be before Iran tries to cut off the Straits and effect the Oil flow to the West.
 
Why would Iran give terrorists a nuke? You watch too many movies.
The same people they give money to, bombs, training, resources , intelligence with ect … your ignorance is shining . You probably believe they have nothing to do with Hamas. They weren’t in Iraq blowing up USA soldiers ect
 
The same people they give money to, bombs, training, resources , intelligence with ect … your ignorance is shining . You probably believe they have nothing to do with Hamas. They weren’t in Iraq blowing up USA soldiers ect
Same as you believing Saudi Arabia is allies with US just cause they buy your weapons and sports teams :D
 
I don't know much about what Israel's strategy is, but realistically now that Israel has attacked, they must continue attacking, right? Basically Iran has to be completely neutralized and pleading for peace/agreeing to a generous peace deal otherwise Israel can expect strong retaliation.
 
Double Bonus Points to Mossad/IDF for carrying out a flawless operation...on Friday the 13th.

It's certainly turned out to be unlucky for a lot of Iranian military and scientists. 😈
They got Jason'd, son!
 
The same people they give money to, bombs, training, resources , intelligence with ect … your ignorance is shining . You probably believe they have nothing to do with Hamas. They weren’t in Iraq blowing up USA soldiers ect
You realize nukes are traceable and impossible to hide the origin of?

Using a nuke guarantees regime destruction. Dictators hate that, it defeats the point of being corrupt.

Can you even explain what advantages giving a proxy a nuclear bomb worth several billion dollars and with no viable delivery mechanism would provide?
 
The same people they give money to, bombs, training, resources , intelligence with ect … your ignorance is shining . You probably believe they have nothing to do with Hamas. They weren’t in Iraq blowing up USA soldiers ect

Terrorism is the only card Iran has left to play. This strike showed how far behind the curve they are in terms of conventional warfare. Not only did the Israeli's hit nuclear sites and kill senior IRGC officers and scientists, they also destroyed a significant number of Iran's anti-aircraft systems.

200 IDF planes took part in the attack. Mossad and Sayeret operators infiltrated Iran, launching drones and missiles without the Iranians even knowing they were there. So far, there hasn't been a single confirmed loss by the Israelis.

Iran vs Israel in a conventional war is a No-Stripe White spazzing out against a Black Belt.
 
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