Israel seems less prepared than Alex

[stacrafty]

You first since you're the one who wants to do this.

Also, lol @ writing a full paragraph and ducking the question.

Which fighter is more likely to knock out the other according to those Vegas odds you like to cite so much?

Nows hes is cherry picking which Vegas Odds he trusts now

Alex by KO - yep I like that
Izzy by TKO - pretend I never saw that
Izzy by sub - ditto
Izzy by Dec - wow.... stay right away from that

(no gif needed for effect, the cringe is enough as is)

 

[matrixremaster]

Nows hes is cherry picking which Vegas Odds he trusts now

Alex by KO - yep I like that
Izzy by TKO - pretend I never saw that
Izzy by sub - ditto
Izzy by Dec - wow.... stay right away from that

(no gif needed for effect, the cringe is enough as is)

lol You were the one who brought up Vegas odds but now when it comes to which fighter is more likely to end the fight striking by those very odds you don't want to answer.

I don't need use weak things like odds to justify my argument.

I can just do this:

 

[wisdom blows]

He didn't have the takedowns to do anything last time out. It would be very surprising to me if he could improve his wrestling this fast especially with how little time there is between fights. Alex may well be the superior wrestler and striker at this point. His game looks like it's growing faster than Israel.

Israel has shown less evolution than Alex.

better wrestling based on being outwrestled by Izzy, or?

 

[stacrafty]

lol You were the one who brought up Vegas odds but now when it comes to which fighter is more likely to end the fight striking by those very odds you don't want to answer.

I don't need use weak things like odds to justify my argument.

I can just use gifs of Israel getting knocked out in his last two fights with Alex.

For example, Alex to win by KO - means what is the chance Alex wins by KO. Seems pretty self explanatory. But we're dealing with you here, and you are retarded. So I would fully expect you to not know what it means, and stretch it into "see Alex is actually the favorites", or "Alex has a better chance of winning"

We're talking in a thread you made where you think camps would actually show anything of relevance in media. That's what we're dealing with.

 

[matrixremaster]

I'm happy to answer, its just I know your'e a retard, and I fully expect you to have zero idea what that answer actually means, and extrapolate what it actually means into something else entirely.

For example, Alex to win by KO - means what is the chance Alex wins by KO. Seems pretty self explanatory. But we're dealing with you here, and you are retarded. So I would fully expect you to not know what it means, and stretch it into "see Alex is actually the favorites", or "Alex has a better chance of winning"

We're talking in a thread you made where you think camps would actually show anything of relevance in media. That's what we're dealing with.

Since you backed down from answering it I'll post it.

"The Brazilian is +205 to get the knockout while Adesanya is +300 for a knockout win".

This means that, by the very odds you have based 90% of your arguments on, that Alex has a greater chance to knock Israel out in the striking.

I know that must be a tough pill for you to swallow which is why you couldn't admit it.

Go on now, proceed to insult me and move the goal posts.

 

[stacrafty]

Since you backed down from answering it I'll post it.

"The Brazilian is +205 to get the knockout while Adesanya is +300 for a knockout win".

This means that, by the very odds you have based 90% of your arguments on, that Alex has a greater chance to knock Israel out in the striking.

I know that must be a tough pill for you to swallow which is why you couldn't admit it.

Go on now, proceed to insult me and move the goal posts.

I'm totally fine with that fact.

I even mentioned it in another thread

Actually kudos for you for actually knowing what it means.

Izzy doesn't have anywhere near the power Alex does. Izzy may be better over all, but this is one area he lacks. He more skilled, sets up better but really (seems) to need to land flush for it to happen. Alex doesn't have that problem.

I could go into why I think Izzy is better, but we know you don't have the ability to understand or comprehend anything I say do we hahaha

The goal posts are still the same, my set - requires having to fully back stuff up with stats, numbers, even a detailed analysis of the sports betting works., Yours is a lot smaller - scaled to your ability,. It consists of keeping things to the final result - so you can remember easy (3-0), some KO gifs, and a cherry picked chance to win via KO vegas odds. Keep it at that shall we?

 

[swimba]

lol You were the one who brought up Vegas odds but now when it comes to which fighter is more likely to end the fight striking by those very odds you don't want to answer.

I don't need use weak things like odds to justify my argument.

I can just do this:

Why you have to be so mean?

 

[ChimRichalds]

I think they've both busted ass for this fight. In my mind there's no way Izzy hasn't been doing everything in his power to finally beat Alex.

 

[Tweak896]

You guys read too much into it. Izzy is obviously keeping what his training camp was close to his chest. Alex doesn't mind to reveal because he really doesn't have pressure. Izzy keeps mentioning in the media how he has tunnel vision on this fight only and that's exactly what he needs to do. He's always came prepared so I expect it this time too. He know he has to fight a perfect fight or history is sealed.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Weird thread...lots of speculation floating around... and assuming ..

 

[Paolo Delutis]

His camp footage suggests a wrestling gameplan. Pretty much 0 striking sparring sessions, and mostly grappling.

So camp footage means exactly whats going on ..got it...

Mayweather didnt train for Conor either..

 

[Crash-override]

I know there is a cliche about Shedogger's reading into things and I could be wrong, but this is what I get looking at this from an outside point of view.

Israel seems less prepared mentally and physically.

There is a quiet, somber attitude coming from his training camp. Alex is training with all-time great fighters and kickboxers, finely honing techniques and growing his abilities and Israel has stayed close to his camp and is doing a lot of media and public appearances with fans, Alex's attitude is that it's his destiny to beat Israel and Israel is saying "what if" when he talks about beating Alex.

Of course, we don't know exactly what goes on behind the scenes but this is what it looks like from an outside perspective.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Israel will finally beat Alex. Its like when yiu get enough tries eventually you win one. I think alot of fans think it's a forgone conclusion that Alex wins and I think this will be the one Israel actually wins

 

[orca]

He didn't have the takedowns to do anything last time out. It would be very surprising to me if he could improve his wrestling this fast especially with how little time there is between fights. Alex may well be the superior wrestler and striker at this point. His game looks like it's growing faster than Israel.

Israel has shown less evolution than Alex.

even if he could improve by some miracle he will abandon it
hes not used to it
he will eventualy gas out forcing a grappling match

 

[GordonMMARamsey]

I am really excited for this fight. I have no idea what is going to happen. Izzy is a hell of a fighter, it'll be interesting to see if he can solve this puzzle. I'm cool with whoever wins. Just hope we get a dope fight.

 

[weaponzero2k2]

I know there is a cliche about Shedogger's reading into things and I could be wrong, but this is what I get looking at this from an outside point of view.

Israel seems less prepared mentally and physically.

There is a quiet, somber attitude coming from his training camp. Alex is training with all-time great fighters and kickboxers, finely honing techniques and growing his abilities and Israel has stayed close to his camp and is doing a lot of media and public appearances with fans, Alex's attitude is that it's his destiny to beat Israel and Israel is saying "what if" when he talks about beating Alex.

Of course, we don't know exactly what goes on behind the scenes but this is what it looks like from an outside perspective.

I think you are mistaking that for the confidence of knowing he will win because the UFC says he will win (if you catch my drift)

 

[2004 account]

I know there is a cliche about Shedogger's reading into things and I could be wrong, but this is what I get looking at this from an outside point of view.

Israel seems less prepared mentally and physically.

There is a quiet, somber attitude coming from his training camp. Alex is training with all-time great fighters and kickboxers, finely honing techniques and growing his abilities and Israel has stayed close to his camp and is doing a lot of media and public appearances with fans, Alex's attitude is that it's his destiny to beat Israel and Israel is saying "what if" when he talks about beating Alex.

Of course, we don't know exactly what goes on behind the scenes but this is what it looks like from an outside perspective.

the energy that Izzy´s camp is giving off if that of death row prisoners consoling an inmate on his way to the electric chair lol

 

[Fedora Millionankles]

he won striking the last 2x

Its like you shertards have erased from your memory he only got to land his bombs the last 2x fights because he got 2nd chances

Even his boy Gilbert Burns knows this, said this, and picked Izzy to win.

How can you “win the striking” when you get clean KO’d and leave on a stretcher, genius?!
You hug Izzy’s nuts so tightly that’s it’s no wonder he’s begun to “transition.”

 

[WhiteMousse]

lmao retard give it a rest, you realise we're talking in a thread where you think fighters are seriously training in fight week.

The burden of proof is stacked against me? lmao you clueless moron. Izzy is the favourite, that means most of the money on the fight is going on Izzy.

Figthers are picking Izzy to win.

Like I said before, and like you keep proving, your understanding of the history is limited to "0-3". Any detail beyond that is too much for you peanut brain.

No wonder you got 1k posts in a month, tieing your shoelaces and navigating the block probably a mental overload for you.

I think you all are speaking past each other. I don't think that the 0-3 history is the only detail to be considered, but you're acting like it doesn't even matter, when it probably matters more than any other single detail.

 

[Ruke Doufus]

he won striking the last 2x

Its like you shertards have erased from your memory he only got to land his bombs the last 2x fights because he got 2nd chances

Even his boy Gilbert Burns knows this, said this, and picked Izzy to win.

He got kod the last 2 times... How is that winning striking?? Shertard indeed.

 

[MMAFanCal]

I think he is hoping to be able to stay on the outside and out-point Alex like he did most of the previous fight. I don't believe he is planning on relying on takedowns because he could not takedown Alex in the previous fight. Alex is a lot stronger than him and has a good TDD. I would not be surprised, though. The out-point strategy has a lot more risks as Alex could unleash a barrage at anytime if he gets cornered against the fence and is in the phone booth with Alex.