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International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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Let’s be realistic.

People often say, Our kids are being sent to war”- whether it’s by Trump, Putin, or anyone else. But the truth is: these aren't kids. These are grown adults. Soldiers.

And like any adult, a soldier ultimately has a choice. Most who go to war do so willingly. No leader,no matter how powerful,can force tens of thousands of people to fight if they truly don’t want to. Not without mass resistance.

The real issue isn’t a single politician. It’s the herd mentality, fear, cultural traditions, and deeply embedded habits that keep people following orders without questioning them.

Until people start thinking independently , developing the clarity and inner strength to say no to war , nothing changes. The power to stop this has always been with the individuals. They just have to realize it.
While I understand what you are saying, I think you are wrong here.

This kind of herd mentality is only allowed to proliferate specifically because an individual is powerless to do anything about it - you need the same herd mentality in order to create any kind of change.

It's exactly the same in capital vs labor. A single worker is powerless to fight against organized capital.
 
So you are saying Iran started this with the 200 missiles fired into Israel in Oct 2024? I'm not sure what your point is, Adolph. Other than you hate a certain group...
you realize israel attacked them first by bombing the iranian consulate in damascus a few months before yeah? the october attack from iran was like the 4th attack in a back and forth throughout the year.
 
Israel has been saying that to Hamas since 10/7. And all you have done is cried and cried about. You're such a whinging hypocrite.
If Israel wants to commit war crimes against Palestine, then that's fine, so long as the US splits from Israel. But they're not going to, so I'm going to continue to speak out about it. And as I've said before, October 7th wasn't the start of their hostilities. In all likelihood, October 7th was a false flag where Israel stood down so they could justify action against Hamas and now Iran
 
Iran is a more civilized society than they're painted out to be. Of course their government is extreme but they're at no risk of nuking Israel outside of an Israeli/US invasion of Iran. Them wanting nukes is just insurance against Israeli aggression. They don't want to wind up like Iraq or Libya and I don't blame them. They're not good guys but neither is Israel.
This is likely true but when you keep saying you want the total destruction of Israel - it doesn't help people think that way.
 
If Israel wants to commit war crimes against Palestine, then that's fine, so long as the US splits from Israel. But they're not going to, so I'm going to continue to speak out about it. And as I've said before, October 7th wasn't the start of their hostilities. In all likelihood, October 7th was a false flag where Israel stood down so they could justify action against Hamas and now Iran
So you don't care about Palestinians being killed just that the US supports Israel. You are a complex confused individual.
 
So you don't care about Palestinians being killed just that the US supports Israel. You are a complex confused individual.
I obviously don't want anything to happen to any of the good people in Iran, Palestine, or Israel. I understand that's not possible unfortunately. If their governments are hell bent on killing each other, then I'd rather the US not be involved with any of them.
 
Iran is a more civilized society than they're painted out to be. Of course their government is extreme but they're at no risk of nuking Israel outside of an Israeli/US invasion of Iran. Them wanting nukes is just insurance against Israeli aggression. They don't want to wind up like Iraq or Libya and I don't blame them. They're not good guys but neither is Israel.
No. They want nukes because they can get away with supporting terror much more with the threat of nukes. I'm not going to argue this to no end because it is terribly naive. They are the #1 terror supporter in the world; their attacks have killed a lot of Americans and continue to threaten peace and stability in the Middel East and elsewhere. There are a lot of good, progressive citizens there, but the government is nothing short of monstrous and super dangerous.

Terrorist Operations Attributed to Iran and General Soleimani

1. 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombing

  • In October 1983, a suicide truck bomb targeted the U.S. Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, killing 241 U.S. Marines and 58 French paratroopers.
  • U.S. intelligence and subsequent court testimony have implicated Iran’s IRGC—and by extension Quds Force operatives under Soleimani’s eventual leadership—in planning and directing the attack as part of a broader strategy to expel Western forces from Lebanon

2. 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing

  • On June 25, 1996, a massive truck bomb detonated at the Khobar Towers housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. Air Force personnel and injuring hundreds more.
  • Western intelligence attributes the operation to Hezbollah under IRGC guidance, with the Quds Force playing a coordinating role that Soleimani oversaw as part of Iran’s regional terror network

3. 1994 AMIA Bombing (Argentina)

  • In July 1994, a suicide bombing on the Argentine Israelite Mutual Association (AMIA) center in Buenos Aires killed 85 civilians and wounded over 300.
  • Argentine and international investigators link the attack to Hezbollah operatives trained and equipped by the Quds Force, implicating the network Soleimani commanded

Insurgent Warfare in Iraq (2003–2019)

  • Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs)
    Under Soleimani’s direction, the Quds Force supplied Shiʿite militias in Iraq with roadside bombs that became the leading cause of U.S. military fatalities during the Iraq War
  • Karbala Raid (January 2007)
    U.S. military investigators concluded that members of the Quds Force aided in planning a raid on U.S. troops in Karbala, Iraq, resulting in multiple American deaths and injuries
  • December 2019 K-1 Air Base Attack
    On December 27, 2019, a rocket attack on the K-1 Air Base in Kirkuk province killed a U.S. civilian contractor and injured U.S. and Iraqi personnel. The Pentagon explicitly held Soleimani and his Quds Force responsible for orchestrating that attack

Pentagon Assessment of U.S. Casualties

The Department of Defense stated that “General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more,” underscoring the breadth of operations he directed against U.S. forces across the Middle East

Iran’s government, principally through its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force, provides funding, training, weapons, and logistical support to a network of non-state armed groups across the Middle East. These proxies are united under Tehran’s so-called “Axis of Resistance” and include Lebanon’s Hezbollah, Palestinian groups in Gaza and the West Bank, Yemeni Houthis, and various Iraqi Shi‘ite militias. Their activities range from rocket and missile attacks against civilian and military targets to guerrilla-style ambushes, and U.S. and allied authorities hold them responsible for the deaths and injuries of American service members, diplomats, and contractors.

Major Proxies in Lebanon and Palestine

Hezbollah

Overview: Lebanon’s Hezbollah is Iran’s oldest and most capable proxy, designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. in 1997. Tehran provides Hezbollah with up to an estimated $700 million annually in financial and materiel support, plus advanced missile and drone technology.
  • Activities: Hezbollah has carried out cross-border rocket attacks against Israel, facilitated arms shipments to Gaza, and deployed fighters to back Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Hamas

  • Overview: Iran has supplied Hamas with $100 million or more per year in cash and weapons since the mid-1990s, bolstering the group’s military wing in Gaza.
  • Activities: Hamas conducts rocket barrages into southern Israel, tunnel assaults, and kidnappings; its 7 October 2023 offensive was coordinated in part via Iranian training and materiel channels.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)

  • Overview: Another U.S.-designated FTO, PIJ relies on Iranian funding (up to tens of millions annually) and weapons transfers to its Gaza operatives.
  • Activities: PIJ has launched thousands of rockets at Israeli population centers and conducted suicide bombings; Iran’s supply of short-range rockets and anti-tank missiles has significantly enhanced PIJ capabilities.

Yemeni Proxy

Houthi Movement (Ansar Allah)

  • Overview: Since 2015, Iran’s IRGC and Lebanese Hezbollah have given the Houthis training, missile-tech transfers, and naval drone expertise—despite a UN arms embargo.
  • Activities: The Houthis have struck commercial shipping in the Red Sea, fired ballistic missiles toward Saudi Arabia, and conducted drone attacks against U.S. naval assets, demonstrating clear Iranian-supplied ordnance.

Iraqi Shi‘ite Militias

Iran supports multiple U.S.-designated terrorist militias within Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) umbrella:

Kata‘ib Hezbollah

  • Receives Iranian funds, weapons, and training; responsible for IED and rocket attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq.

Harakat al-Nujaba

  • A breakaway from Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, it fields fighters in Syria and Iraq using IRGC-supplied heavy weaponry.

Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq

  • Designated an FTO in 2020, this group has led attacks on U.S. personnel and convoys, using Iranian-provided rockets and short-range missiles.

Badr Organization

  • Formed in Iran during the Iran–Iraq War, Badr remains an IRGC proxy in Baghdad politics and armed operations, equipped and funded by Tehran.

Other Notable Affiliates

  • Palestinian Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP): Receives Iranian funding and logistical aid for guerrilla and rocket attacks; designated as an FTO since 1997.
  • Popular Mobilization Forces (General): Beyond the four core militias listed, Iran backs additional smaller Shia brigades under the PMF umbrella.
Key Takeaway: Through a combination of financing, training, and weapon transfers—chiefly orchestrated by the IRGC-Quds Force—Iran maintains a diversified portfolio of militant proxies. These groups operate across Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, and Iraq, posing ongoing threats to regional stability and having been directly implicated in violence against U.S. personnel.
 
iranian officials are claiming to have captured an IDF pilot. we'll see if it's true. frankly, i didn't think they had the balls to retaliate this harshly in the first place, and i've been proven wrong.
Iran isn't some paper tiger as far as the region goes. From what I've seen, they're around a peer level threat to Israel. If they fear anyone, it's the US.
 
No. They want nukes because they can get away with supporting terror much more with the threat of nukes. I'm not going to argue this to no end because it is terribly naive. They are the #1 terror supporter in the world; their attacks have killed a lot of Americans and continue to threaten peace and stability in the Middel East and elsewhere. There are a lot of good, progressive citizens there, but the government is nothing short of monstrous and super dangerous.

Terrorist Operations Attributed to Iran and General Soleimani

1. 1983 Beirut Barracks Bombing

  • In October 1983, a suicide truck bomb targeted the U.S. Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, killing 241 U.S. Marines and 58 French paratroopers.
  • U.S. intelligence and subsequent court testimony have implicated Iran’s IRGC—and by extension Quds Force operatives under Soleimani’s eventual leadership—in planning and directing the attack as part of a broader strategy to expel Western forces from Lebanon

2. 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing

  • On June 25, 1996, a massive truck bomb detonated at the Khobar Towers housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing 19 U.S. Air Force personnel and injuring hundreds more.
  • Western intelligence attributes the operation to Hezbollah under IRGC guidance, with the Quds Force playing a coordinating role that Soleimani oversaw as part of Iran’s regional terror network

3. 1994 AMIA Bombing (Argentina)

  • In July 1994, a suicide bombing on the Argentine Israelite Mutual Association (AMIA) center in Buenos Aires killed 85 civilians and wounded over 300.
  • Argentine and international investigators link the attack to Hezbollah operatives trained and equipped by the Quds Force, implicating the network Soleimani commanded

Insurgent Warfare in Iraq (2003–2019)

  • Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs)
    Under Soleimani’s direction, the Quds Force supplied Shiʿite militias in Iraq with roadside bombs that became the leading cause of U.S. military fatalities during the Iraq War
  • Karbala Raid (January 2007)
    U.S. military investigators concluded that members of the Quds Force aided in planning a raid on U.S. troops in Karbala, Iraq, resulting in multiple American deaths and injuries
  • December 2019 K-1 Air Base Attack
    On December 27, 2019, a rocket attack on the K-1 Air Base in Kirkuk province killed a U.S. civilian contractor and injured U.S. and Iraqi personnel. The Pentagon explicitly held Soleimani and his Quds Force responsible for orchestrating that attack

Pentagon Assessment of U.S. Casualties

The Department of Defense stated that “General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more,” underscoring the breadth of operations he directed against U.S. forces across the Middle East

Iran’s government, principally through its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force, provides funding, training, weapons, and logistical support to a network of non-state armed groups across the Middle East. These proxies are united under Tehran’s so-called “Axis of Resistance” and include Lebanon’s Hezbollah, Palestinian groups in Gaza and the West Bank, Yemeni Houthis, and various Iraqi Shi‘ite militias. Their activities range from rocket and missile attacks against civilian and military targets to guerrilla-style ambushes, and U.S. and allied authorities hold them responsible for the deaths and injuries of American service members, diplomats, and contractors.

Major Proxies in Lebanon and Palestine

Hezbollah

Overview: Lebanon’s Hezbollah is Iran’s oldest and most capable proxy, designated a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. in 1997. Tehran provides Hezbollah with up to an estimated $700 million annually in financial and materiel support, plus advanced missile and drone technology.
  • Activities: Hezbollah has carried out cross-border rocket attacks against Israel, facilitated arms shipments to Gaza, and deployed fighters to back Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Hamas

  • Overview: Iran has supplied Hamas with $100 million or more per year in cash and weapons since the mid-1990s, bolstering the group’s military wing in Gaza.
  • Activities: Hamas conducts rocket barrages into southern Israel, tunnel assaults, and kidnappings; its 7 October 2023 offensive was coordinated in part via Iranian training and materiel channels.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)

  • Overview: Another U.S.-designated FTO, PIJ relies on Iranian funding (up to tens of millions annually) and weapons transfers to its Gaza operatives.
  • Activities: PIJ has launched thousands of rockets at Israeli population centers and conducted suicide bombings; Iran’s supply of short-range rockets and anti-tank missiles has significantly enhanced PIJ capabilities.

Yemeni Proxy

Houthi Movement (Ansar Allah)

  • Overview: Since 2015, Iran’s IRGC and Lebanese Hezbollah have given the Houthis training, missile-tech transfers, and naval drone expertise—despite a UN arms embargo.
  • Activities: The Houthis have struck commercial shipping in the Red Sea, fired ballistic missiles toward Saudi Arabia, and conducted drone attacks against U.S. naval assets, demonstrating clear Iranian-supplied ordnance.

Iraqi Shi‘ite Militias

Iran supports multiple U.S.-designated terrorist militias within Iraq’s Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) umbrella:

Kata‘ib Hezbollah

  • Receives Iranian funds, weapons, and training; responsible for IED and rocket attacks on U.S. bases in Iraq.

Harakat al-Nujaba

  • A breakaway from Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, it fields fighters in Syria and Iraq using IRGC-supplied heavy weaponry.

Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq

  • Designated an FTO in 2020, this group has led attacks on U.S. personnel and convoys, using Iranian-provided rockets and short-range missiles.

Badr Organization

  • Formed in Iran during the Iran–Iraq War, Badr remains an IRGC proxy in Baghdad politics and armed operations, equipped and funded by Tehran.

Other Notable Affiliates

  • Palestinian Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP): Receives Iranian funding and logistical aid for guerrilla and rocket attacks; designated as an FTO since 1997.
  • Popular Mobilization Forces (General): Beyond the four core militias listed, Iran backs additional smaller Shia brigades under the PMF umbrella.
Key Takeaway: Through a combination of financing, training, and weapon transfers—chiefly orchestrated by the IRGC-Quds Force—Iran maintains a diversified portfolio of militant proxies. These groups operate across Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, and Iraq, posing ongoing threats to regional stability and having been directly implicated in violence against U.S. personnel.
That's a laundry list nearly as long as the government of Israel and the US.

I didn't say they were saints. I said that they wouldn't use nukes against Israel unless they were being invaded.
 
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