Media Islam takes shots at Dan Hooker, while wishing Volkanovski best of luck against Yair

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D 1 Wrestler said:
Yea it just happens the entire Russian Olympic team scandal involved meldonium , along with other Russian athletes like Tennis star Sharapova, is merely coincidental
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Meanwhile Serena was doing it with backdated TUE's and ITF's complicity, so who's more corrupted?

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D 1 Wrestler said:
Usada had nothing to do with Sharapova. You do realize Jeff Novitzky is now on the UFC payroll right? Show me another sport where the former top PED investigator is now on the payroll of the league lol and now almost nobody tests positive anymore
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A USADA source exposed Russian bloc athletes using it not as intended for recuperation, but as a PED
 
_manhattan said:
A USADA source exposed Russian bloc athletes using it not for as intended for recuperation, but as a PED
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They had nothing to do with her suspension. She was suspended by ITF. If ITF let her slide on some undocumented procedure or something then you would have an Islam comparable, but ITF isn't as corrupt when it comes to PEDs nor do they have a former PED investigator working for them saying picograms are excusable or giving waivers to guys like Brock and delaying their test results post competition
 
Dan is the best human punching bag ever. You couldn't replicate someone like that. He is one of one.
 
UFC666 said:
Yeah, i'm pretty sure Islam would not use word like "miserable". It's too advance for Islam.
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I was just going to post the same comment. Can almost guarantee that was Ali tweeting.
 
Blastbeat said:
see, you cant say "case closed" and "likely" together and declare its done. "likely" isnt good enough. there's no hard evidence. just a tweet that came from Ali who is...dubious with the truth at best. the case isnt closed if there's still questions. and last i checked, Hooker has no evidence that the rules were violated and he said as much.
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don't fool yourself kid, other than a positive test, you couldn't get any more compelling evidence than his manager tweeting out he uses IV's... then deleting that tweet

If it was legit, then keep the tweet up and clarify what you meant, or something.

But its coming from his own team - his own manager, was highly incriminating... and then hastily deleted.
 
Sincere Guy said:
On purpose 100%. You don't fool anyone here, at least not me. But good luck with your pretending skills, whatever.
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And what am I pretending exactly? You mean when you can find me complimenting and criticizing every fighter based on what the discussion is? Cuz I'm not pathetic enough of a follower to make one fighter my entire Sherdog profile like some other people?
 
corrupted said:
I was gonna say this. The evidence is how every body reacted. just because Islam doesn't act like a cheat or mouth off all the time. He DOES have form... He's been busted before and got off with a ridiculous technicality. And please, don't come with the "He was taking it as a legit treatment", Meldonium, he wasn't, Same way that the shit Cyborg was caught taking was a fertility treatment because she "wants to have kids", like, ok, you can get a doctor to say that . . . But she ain't having no kids ... It's just you can't PROVE that. Like the "dick pills" and "Tainted Creatine"

I still don't understand how this is not taken in to account. He got busted for the same drug that pretty much ended Maria Sharapova's career, she used the exact same excuse backed by the Russian federation because Meldonium is legal to use in Russia. He didn't actually need to take it and did. Had the prepared response because it's known.
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its sherdog, its an incredibly low IQ place

You look at the most of the replies and its about Hookers career his win loss as that somehow substantiates the validity of what hes saying
Rather than a logic approach looking at what happened at the time - ie Hooker bringing up a long standing rumour albeit no evidence, then Islams own team giving the most compelling evidence imaginable outside of actually being caught red handed

But the shertards "Hooker lost to Islam - therefore no evidence at all"

Low IQ place.
 
After 4 months people are still salty over Islam's win?

Even Volk admitted he lost that fight.

Ali never admitted to Islam cheating in the tweet. Case has been investigated and closed by AU commission.
 
stacrafty said:
didn't have to, Islam's manager did all the work

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/new...tweet-admitting-russian-used-iv-ahead-ufc-284

Dan drunkenly tweeting on something every one on the inside knows... albeit without evidence... doesn't change the fact Islam is likely a cheat - given how compelling his own manager outing him is.
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His manager tweeted that IV use is legal, because it is. He got the amount wrong cuz he's dumb, but also of note is: he wasn't with Islam for the international card but his other manager was, the one who denied Islam using anything in full.

So you've got people saying he used an IV. One person says IV itself isn't even illegal (he's right), and the other says Islam didn't use it at all.

And your conclusion is, that's an admission of guilt.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
His manager tweeted that IV use is legal, because it is. He got the amount wrong cuz he's dumb, but also of note is: he wasn't with Islam for the international card but his other manager was, the one who denied Islam using anything in full.

So you've got people saying he used an IV. One person says IV itself isn't even illegal (he's right), and the other says Islam didn't use it at all.

And your conclusion is, that's an admission of guilt.
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so kinda like on breaking bad when Skyler fake pleaded dumb to save Ted's business from being busted by the IRS
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
That is what it sounds like to people who don't read or understand things.

There was both no evidence of an IV AND IV's themselves aren't banned, (just a certain amount of usage is, and that has always been the rule).

It was something that didn't get talked about much, so people who are dumb concocted that it must be some conspiracy theory.


He did provide medical documentation for the heart procedure, for what it's worth, so that's not "as much proof." And had to miss out on the world sambo championships in order to have this excuse.


Chucky's Sherdog-Cocktumor picks up a theory about a fighter who beat Chucky, so he takes the narrative and runs with it.


I bet you think sometimes.

Probably a rare occurrence, but the low odds should pay off well the next time a spark limps it's way through that thing you call a brain
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This is wrong. IV is 100% banned by the local commission in Western Australia where this fight took place. That's why it was an issue. Nothing likely came off it because sauna use was also banned. They had a local nurse contracted to go and give an IV to a Russian athlete and they requested they left a couple bags behind. Islam knows what's up and whether he used an IV. It could have been anyone in his team, but we have no conclusive proof and Islam denies it whilst his own manager basically admitted it before realising he screwed up and going silent on it.

My opinion is Islam used an IV, mistakenly believing it was fine and then it's all been kept on the down low because the only way IV use has been proved is via video(Costa) or admission (B.J Penn).

https://www.mmamania.com/2023/2/16/...e-is-legal-but-australia-commission-disagrees

Melodonium was on a watch list then and subsequently banned because 17% of Russian athletes were taking it. It was being prescribed to athletes by sport doctors, just like TRT was during the TRT era for "low T". Either Russian athletes have a large number of heart problems or like most athletes they are willing to skirt the edge of the rules to get an advantage. Islam had a doc say he need it and he had a procedure so no issues. The drug is only used in a few countries because there are much better options and isn't approved in Western countries.



https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/08/meldonium-maria-sharapova-failed-drugs-test
 
maximus__ said:
This is wrong. IV is 100% banned by the local commission in Western Australia where this fight took place. That's why it was an issue. Nothing likely came off it because sauna use was also banned. They had a local nurse contracted to go and give an IV to a Russian athlete and they requested they left a couple bags behind. Islam knows what's up and whether he used an IV. It could have been anyone in his team, but we have no conclusive proof and Islam denies it whilst his own manager basically admitted it before realising he screwed up and going silent on it.

My opinion is Islam used an IV, mistakenly believing it was fine and then it's all been kept on the down low because the only way IV use has been proved is via video(Costa) or admission (B.J Penn).

https://www.mmamania.com/2023/2/16/...e-is-legal-but-australia-commission-disagrees

Melodonium was on a watch list then and subsequently banned because 17% of Russian athletes were taking it. It was being prescribed to athletes by sport doctors, just like TRT was during the TRT era for "low T". Either Russian athletes have a large number of heart problems or like most athletes they are willing to skirt the edge of the rules to get an advantage. Islam had a doc say he need it and he had a procedure so no issues. The drug is only used in a few countries because there are much better options and isn't approved in Western countries.



https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/08/meldonium-maria-sharapova-failed-drugs-test
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Right, the exception was a USADA rule, which is what Ali referenced, but again, he was not the manager there, while Islams manager who was there, as well as his team, and him all said no IV was used, in line with the commission.

Still could have been an IV (and I seem to remember someone else from his team taking some of the suspicion, iirc), but as you said, no actual proof, and again, Ali didn't admit anything. It's hard to put much into his knowledge of the USADA exception vs the local commission rules when he didn't even know the correct amount people were allowed. He still could easily have done it, but there's no evidence offered by anyone, and I lean towards disbelieving the people who continually flaunt supposed evidence they won't release. There are "he said/ she said" situations where you don't know who's honest, or if either are, but it's not hard to spot a bullshitter when they're going "Oh I can prove it... im just not gonna yet"

Meldonium was a common treatment for health issues and is over the counter in Russia, and wasn't banned around the time he was using it. He could easily have had a doctor sign off, but it also caused him to sit out of world sambo competition, so it's a pretty big consequence to volunteer for that alibi.
 
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