Islam Makhachev or Justin Gaethje - Who should get the titleshot?

Who should get the titleshot?


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I think JG unequivocally doesn't deserve a title shot and is behind Dariush. The guys is on a ONE fight win streak, and he just beat someone coming off a KO loss.

That doesn't make sense. Of course he has only one fight win streak because he just fought for the title and lost to the LW GOAT. But before that in his last 6 fights he has only one loss and that is to Khabib. He has 4 win finishes from his last 6 fights which were all KO/TKO. And just had a FOTY candidate war. The guy is the most exciting fighter out there. He'll get his TS soon I believe.

Dariush has a 7 fight win streak, didn't recently get wrecked in a title shot.

Well of course he hasn't got wrecked, he never had a TS opportunity yet. His wins haven't been that spectacular to, how many in his win streak were in the top 10?

You can argue Islam or Dariush could get an expedited title shot if we have to go that route. Both of them should really have a title eliminator. JG isn't even in the discussion with regards to merit.

Are you serious? Just look at Justin Gaethje last 6 fights and that tells the whole story. He has just as much merit as those other guys you mentioned.
 
This is a very stupid question.
Justin Gaethje is #2
He just beat the (then) #4 in Michael Chandler

Islam was #5
He just beat.... Dan Hooker who was #6, but was a replacement fighter.

Why the fuck does that makes Islam a contender over Gaethje?
It does not.
 
I’m a fan of Islam and believe he deserves a title shot, but after Justin’s performance, I believe he should get the title shot ahead of Islam or Dariush. Here’s why.

Islam is streaking right now but I feel like they can build him some more prior to a championship fight. Beating Dariush or the loser of Oliveira vs. Porier would help raise his profile.

Also, Justin vs. Oliveira or Justin vs. Porier 2 would be exciting fights especially in a 5 round fight so makes sense to give him the first crack at the title.
 
This is a very stupid question.
Justin Gaethje is #2
He just beat the (then) #4 in Michael Chandler

Islam was #5
He just beat.... Dan Hooker who was #6, but was a replacement fighter.

Why the fuck does that makes Islam a contender over Gaethje?
It does not.
Because they overvalue win streaks

I guess they think Giga Chikadze should be getting a title shot over Max too

And Sean Strickland should be getting a shot over Whittaker as well
 
This is a very stupid question.
Justin Gaethje is #2
He just beat the (then) #4 in Michael Chandler

Islam was #5
He just beat.... Dan Hooker who was #6, but was a replacement fighter.

Why the fuck does that makes Islam a contender over Gaethje?
It does not.
Because they overvalue win streaks

I guess they think Giga Chikadze should be getting a title shot over Max too

And Sean Strickland should be getting a shot over Whittaker as well
You guys must be thinking Jan Blachowicz is next in the line for LHW title because he is currently ranked no.1?

The guy just lost the title, of course he will be ranked high.

That doesn't mean Jan or Gaethje should pass the other contenders who never get their chance to fight for the title, not even mention both got finished in their title fights, it wasn't even close and wasn't even a decision loss.
 
I want justin to get the shot if Dustin wins and Islam to get the shot if Charles wins.
 
This is a very stupid question.
Justin Gaethje is #2
He just beat the (then) #4 in Michael Chandler

Islam was #5
He just beat.... Dan Hooker who was #6, but was a replacement fighter.

Why the fuck does that makes Islam a contender over Gaethje?
It does not.

No it doesn’t but let’s not pretend the UFC is a meritocracy. People get undeserved title shots all the time. There are many compelling reasons for Justin to get a title shot. The UFC rankings, which are an absolute joke, are not one of them especially when you’re talking about two people who are within 1-2 spots of each other in the rankings.

There’s no rule that says only the #1 or #2 ranked guy gets the title shot. Basically, anyone in the top 5 can fight the champion.
 
Why Dariush over Islam?
Dariush's win streak:

#108 Thiago Moises
#50 Drew Dober
#135 Frank Camacho
#35 Drakkar Klose
#24 Scott Holtzman
#6 Diego Ferreira
#4 Tony Ferguson

Makhachev's win streak:

#87 Chris Wade
#36 Nik Lentz
#187 Gleison Tibau
#42 Kajan Johnson
#99 Arman Tsarukyan
#62 Davi Ramos
#12 Drew Dober
#14 Thiago Moises
#10 Dan Hooker

Dariush has defeated more top ten ranked opponents and two of Makhachev's top fifteen opponents were already beaten by Dariush.
 
You guys must be thinking Jan Blachowicz is next in the line for LHW title because he is currently ranked no.1?

The guy just lost the title, of course he will be ranked high.

That doesn't mean Jan or Gaethje should pass the other contenders who never get their chance to fight for the title, not even mention both got finished in their title fights, it wasn't even close and wasn't even a decision loss.
Kid, Stop being dishonest.
I did not claim that the top deserves to fight always above even if they lost.
I strictly mentioned both fighters, who they fought, each one of their rankings and the fact Hooker was a replacement fighter.
That alone shows where they are, who they beat and why the #2 beating #4 is better than #5 beating #6* (* - last minute replacement fighter)

But beyond that, you are being VERY dishonest if you compare Thiago Moisés, Drew Dober, Davi Ramos or Arman Tsarukyan with the likes of Chandler, Khabib, Tony, Cerrone or Barboza.
There's a reason I can use one name on one side while the other no one would know even when I put their full names.

You can be a fan, but if you don't recognize you got no leg to stand, you are just blind.
 
Islam vs Dariush is a sick fight to make. I'd love to see that.
 
Islam should get the title shot.
But Gaethje will get it and I don't have a problem with it.
 
Islam has a better case. Gaethje is on a 1 fight in streak since losing his last title match. He can take a couple more fights and work his way back.
Really, Islam and Dariush should fight one another for next shot. Gaethje has a ways to go to get back imo.
 
No it doesn’t but let’s not pretend the UFC is a meritocracy. People get undeserved title shots all the time. There are many compelling reasons for Justin to get a title shot. The UFC rankings, which are an absolute joke, are not one of them especially when you’re talking about two people who are within 1-2 spots of each other in the rankings.

There’s no rule that says only the #1 or #2 ranked guy gets the title shot. Basically, anyone in the top 5 can fight the champion.
Sorry, but I hate these childish arguments.

Yes, UFC does not do a good job of letting only deserving fighters challenge their champion. They are actually terrible at it.
But two wrongs do not make a right. I dislike when they do it, so I will fight against it every time.
I find it highly hypocrite when people want a shortcut to the belt only when it is their favorite fighter. Stay in line!
If you think your fighter is that good, then don't be so afraid to let him prove by climbing the rankings properly.

And let us not forget your mention of how they are close in rankings, because you are being very dishonest about it.
The ONLY reason Islam is that high is exactly because the UFC is pushing him up, and not because he really deserves it.
That is the same way they keep deserving fighters without title shots when they dislike them.

IMHO people need to stop with this hypocrisy, because it just adds to the problem.
But I am positive you will have no problem crying about some other fighter you dislike getting a title shot against someone you like in the near future (assuming your fighter gets to win a belt, of course).
 
Islam should get a TS, 9 fight win streak and not his fault the top 10 fighters been ducking him from the very start.
Why should he be penalised for being frozen out of the top 10 for so long
 
That doesn't make sense. Of course he has only one fight win streak because he just fought for the title and lost to the LW GOAT. But before that in his last 6 fights he has only one loss and that is to Khabib. He has 4 win finishes from his last 6 fights which were all KO/TKO. And just had a FOTY candidate war. The guy is the most exciting fighter out there. He'll get his TS soon I believe.



Well of course he hasn't got wrecked, he never had a TS opportunity yet. His wins haven't been that spectacular to, how many in his win streak were in the top 10?



Are you serious? Just look at Justin Gaethje last 6 fights and that tells the whole story. He has just as much merit as those other guys you mentioned.


JG is a .500 fighter when matched with elite competition. Before Tony, the two best guys JG fought in the UFC were Poirer and Alvarez and they BOTH knocked him out. He beat guys that either don't belong in the UFC or don't belong in the divisional rankings. His win against Tony was great, but Tony has aged out and we've seen him get dominated in 6 consecutive rounds. Both Dariush and Do Bronx beat Tony A LOT cleaner then JG did, who got dropped like a sack of potatoes in round 1.

Then he got run over by Khabib worse than literally all of his peers.

Now he's on a ONE fight win streak - a decision over a guy coming off a KO loss.

JG isn't even in the discussion if we are going off merit. Islam is comfortably ahead of him and I think Dariush is more deserving as well.
 
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