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And the few that took part in that deserve castration
What about the rest of the populace.....they all deserve rape and genodice too?

When the nazis lost, there was a process of de-nazification, i think a process of de-Salafization is more than warranted.

Anything that smells of Salafism or Wahabbism should be stomped with extreme prejudice.

Sunni arabs could learn a thing or 2 from the sunni kurds and take their religion down a notch or 2.
 
When the nazis lost, there was a process of de-nazification, i think a process of de-Salafization is more than warranted.

Anything that smells of Salafism or Wahabbism should be stomped with extreme prejudice.

Sunni arabs could learn a thing or 2 from the sunni kurds and take their religion down a notch or 2.
We'd have to demolish the house of Saud to make this happen. Which, of course, I'm all for. Except that unintended consequences, etc. I think pulling all financial and diplomatic support should cover it.
 
No they only tacidly approved it while letting isis do the dirty work for them.

The made their choices and burned their boats there neighbors will never trust them again and for good reason.
Again ...all of them?
 
When the nazis lost, there was a process of de-nazification, i think a process of de-Salafization is more than warranted.

Anything that smells of Salafism or Wahabbism should be stomped with extreme prejudice.

Sunni arabs could learn a thing or 2 from the sunni kurds and take their religion down a notch or 2.
Id agree but the kurds have been cleansing as well for their rojva project
 
Id say its a case of letting the locals police themselves and seeing the political situation doesnt get so bad people wouldnt turn to the likes of isis

Shit went sour before we left iraq but we didnt do shit to stop it decending


The locals won't fight ISIS. We have already seen this. That is how ISIS got many of the military vehicles and weapons they have.
 
The locals won't fight ISIS. We have already seen this. That is how ISIS got many of the military vehicles and weapons they have.
Perhaps u need to look into why that occured or the fact many are fighting them now or the fact it was local assistance shut isis like groups down when we occupied the area ourselves
 
-russia says in 2 weeks the final air campign in aleppo starts .....ie they are gonna leave it rubble and corpses
Seems its when that carrier arrives

Turkish airforce bombing sdf and ypg in race to al bab
 
Perhaps u need to look into why that occured or the fact many are fighting them now or the fact it was local assistance shut isis like groups down when we occupied the area ourselves

Shiites, and Kurds fight ISIS. Sunni's lay weapons down, and ISIS leaves them alone.
 
Perhaps u need to look into why that occured or the fact many are fighting them now or the fact it was local assistance shut isis like groups down when we occupied the area ourselves

Back to the ISIS apologism I see. Funny how the shia who were 'marginalised' for far longer didn't resort to savage barbarism and killing everyone and anyone. They murdered the yezidis and enslaved their women because they see them as 'not muslims'. They lost power and wanted it back. They backed ISIS and now they are reaping the rewards.

They fought ISIS because they got paid off. Once the money stopped they went back to doing what they do best.
 
IS claims to have shot down A-10 in southern Hasaka about halfway between the city of Hasaka and Deir ez Zor.

edit. Pentagon spox denies.

 
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Goverment trying to evacuate civilians out of eastern Aleppo. Rebels mercilessly shelling the crossings in an effort to keep people in. It's becoming a giant hostage situation, just like Mosul will probably be.
Even some Western press reporting it, atleast those who have correspondents in place. Hard to deny truth when it stares you right in the face.
 
As long as our next president doesn't IMPOSE a no-fly zone, I could give a rat's ass
 
Goverment trying to evacuate civilians out of eastern Aleppo. Rebels mercilessly shelling the crossings in an effort to keep people in. It's becoming a giant hostage situation, just like Mosul will probably be.
Even some Western press reporting it, atleast those who have correspondents in place. Hard to deny truth when it stares you right in the face.

@whougonnacall

Still think rebels are better than the government?
 
IS claims to have shot down A-10 in southern Hasaka about halfway between the city of Hasaka and Deir ez Zor.

edit. Pentagon spox denies.



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Breaking on CNN that a U.S. soldier killed in IED attack in northern Iraq.
 
Islamic State fighters are likely to put up a stiff defense of Mosul but eventually lose their grip and morph into an insurgency, a U.S. Army general said Wednesday.

Maj. Gen. Gary Volesky, commander of U.S. and coalition land forces in Iraq, said this transition from conventional combat to counter-insurgency is deemed so predictable that the U.S. training regimen for Iraqi security forces is being adjusted to prepare them for insurgent threats.

Volesky, speaking to reporters at the Pentagon via video link from his headquarters in Baghdad, also disclosed that U.S. Army Apache helicopters have entered the battle for Mosul. He declined to provide specifics, citing the need to preserve operational security, but said they have been striking Islamic State targets at night. The mere presence of the Apaches on the battlefield has been a confidence booster for Iraqi soldiers, he said.

The Apaches, he said, can "see a long range at night" and strike targets from a great distance. "That's what they're doing," he said.

Volesky said some Islamic State forces already are giving up their positions in the outskirts of Mosul and pulling back into the city. He said he expects this trend to continue. They are then likely to attempt to block the entry of Iraqi forces into the city, using a "full-fledged conventional defense."

At some point, he predicted, the Iraqi forces will prevail, and at that point, "I expect they (Islamic State fighters) are going to go into insurgency mode."

"That's my assessment," he added. "That's what we're preparing the Iraqis for."

Earlier this month, a Canadian general who runs a portion of the coalition training of Iraqi security forces told reporters that retaking Mosul from the Islamic State would open a new, more dangerous phase of the counter-IS fight. Brig. Gen. Dave Anderson said the period between the fall of Mosul and the ultimate defeat of IS "is probably when it's most dangerous."

"Literally, what we've been talking about is how do we position police forces and minister of interior forces in order to be able to fight the enemy the day after Mosul and its new metastasized form," Anderson said Oct. 5.


https://www.armytimes.com/articles/us-commander-apaches-are-striking-islamic-state-targets
 


what are they doing...


lol@ the "holding the gun over your head tactic"
 


what are they doing...


lol@ the "holding the gun over your head tactic"



The dude at 1:39 has the most glorious mustache ever.

0:30 in, that's an Iraqi PMU flag. Guess they learned that idiotic over the head spray-n-pray tactic from the Iranians. I guess this is why wars last so long over there: Unless your Israeli, hardly anybody can shoot straight.
 
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