International Isis/syria/iraq thread

[GhostZ06]

First ATGM strike on a Turkish Leopard 2 near al Bab.

they dont have the proper aromour upgrade to take on ATGM's do they?

 

[Videer]

Since when does IS have ATGM's ?

Since day one. Everyone has ATGM's nowdays, the region has experienced massive ATGM proliferation during the Syrian war.

they dont have the proper aromour upgrade to take on ATGM's do they?

I dont think they have any armor upgrades over the baseline A4 apart from some composite armor, afaik no ERA, slat armor or any active defence.

 

[GhostZ06]

Since day one. Everyone has ATGM's nowdays, the region has experienced massive ATGM proliferation during the Syrian war.



I dont think they have any armor upgrades over the baseline A4 apart from some composite armor, afaik no ERA, slat armor or any active defence.

so what your telling me right now, that turkey didnt retro fit they're tanks for urban warfare. lol...

 

[whougonnacall]

they dont have the proper aromour upgrade to take on ATGM's do they?

Think most of them were upgraded but the development of turkeys own tank may have eaten into budget fr that
Not that it matters bottom line atgms kill tanks period and isis have a lotta modern ones

 

[Videer]

Second Leopard also hit at the same position, still only photos so far.

so what your telling me right now, that turkey didnt retro fit they're tanks for urban warfare. lol...

Pff overrated!

Think most of them were upgraded but the development of turkeys own tank may have eaten into budget fr that
Not that it matters bottom line atgms kill tanks period and isis have a lotta modern ones

They were upgraded but nothing in protection apart from composite armor.

 

[whougonnacall]

Second Leopard also hit at the same position, still only photos so far.

Pff overrated!



They were upgraded but nothing in protection apart from composite armor.

Yeah id say all the cash is being used on turkeys own upcomming tank not upgrading the old ones

 

[Videer]

With regime front collapsing in eastern Homs IS has reached T4 airbase.

 

[whougonnacall]

With regime front collapsing in eastern Homs IS has reached T4 airbase.

From what iv seen they have the base surrounded on three sides and are moving to surround on forth soon
Massive arms seized so far (30 pieces of armour etc ) but still no word of full regime dead and wounded tally


Meanwhile aleppo siege over deal struck
Reportedly Russia has forced through the deal to avoid any more mass executions (bad for image and world standing ) and that the militas are needed in homs asap
Most rebels and civilains will move to recently freed turkish -fsa area and some to idib.
Aleppo city (whats left of it) is for now assads (iran really) and the kurds !

 

[Gas121]

The biggest victory/turning point in the war for Assad. The rebels were pounded in the past few weeks. I guess the SAA will head for Idlib next, and the shift there focus back on Palmyra.

I expect the war will get more tense now the SAA have control of Aleppo.

 

[whougonnacall]

So
-iranian and some local pro regime militas holding up russian forged evacuation deal of aleppo , russias role as leader of the axis being put to test

-tyrias airbase now reportedly surrounded , nearby aa bases seized leaving isis with reported multiple manpads (old argument about them falling into wrong hands now moot) regime axis best foriegn iran and iraqi militas ,200 hezbollah and the tiger force milita being sent to try and counter....many of the iranian and iraqis still stuck in aleppo through


-Reported loss of gas and oil fields is around 1 mil a day (russians made many operational again)
Isis armour tally gained is said to be 40+ now as well as tons of various small arms.
Unconfirmed Reports of stunning incompetence in palmyras loss such as guards bribed to not be at checkpoints.


-al bab offensive stalls due to reported isis set lines of trenches and landmines.

- protests all over rebel held territory about constant infighting needing to be set aside to avoid aleppos fate

 

[whougonnacall]

Evacuation of aleppo begins 3k removed so far after inital stalling

 

[Videer]

The on-off evacuations from eastern Aleppo are again off with rebels refusing evacuations from besieged shiite towns of Fuah and Kefraya in Idlib and regime forces blocking the buses from leaving Aleppo.

 

[whougonnacall]

The on-off evacuations from eastern Aleppo are again off with rebels refusing evacuations from besieged shiite towns of Fuah and Kefraya in Idlib and regime forces blocking the buses from leaving Aleppo.

Nope Regime militas have stopped the convoys first , dumpsters pouring rubble on the route and possible 800 people missing
The regime excuse says rebels have tried to smuggle heavy weapons out in cars (cars have been allowed as the buses alone would take forever)
Assad has ordered red cresent and all aid agencies etc out of area.
Then the convoys from fuah etc were brought up


In short the regime militas have blocked long convoys of buses at both ends, militas are advancing on the civilans and eye witnesses agencies are being sent away so that no one can see what could come next ....this isnt good

I think assad is trying to get one more big civilan massacre in while russia and u.s are distracted with the ' internet war'

 

[whougonnacall]

So
-so far aleppo evacuation(ie cleanisng by another name) still delayed
It does seem that iranian militas and hezbollah want to renegotiate deal (kefrya and fuah added)
Hezbollah even went on social media to rally followers to block roads.

-trump talks safe zones for syrian people paid for by gulf states ...sounds like paid for refugee camps with some limited small agreed no fly areas (prob in the already no fly zone turk -fsa area)

-russia pushes for syria wide ceasefire excluding 'terrorists' ie same deal that helped recapture aleppo with regime/iran and russia deciding who counts as terrorist and who is 'legitimate opposition forces '
Last time it meant russia went after almost anyone but isis while u.s stopped fsa weapons and bombed nursra.

-saudi to provide tons of arms to anbar tribes to combat isis and help keep shia militas in line

-rebels in syria talking about finaly uniting at military command level for combined action....game changer long talked about but likely to break into infighting as usual

-u.s bombs isis around tyrias airbase hitting reported multiple armoured vehicles

 

[Videer]

In Mosul fighting Iraqi Golden Division is said to bear the brunt of the fighting and suffering almost half of the casualties, I do not know for how long can they sustain one of the few units that are actually capable before burning them out.

Meanwhile west of Mosul PMU bois got new toys as the Iranian produced Kornets make first appearance in Iraq.



Coalition planes make some tanks and artillery captured by IS in their eastern Homs offensive go poof:

https://www.dvidshub.net/video/5009...h-tank-and-artillery-piece-near-palmyra-syria

 

[whougonnacall]

Aleppo deal back on
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38350658
The kefrya and fuah wounded withdrawal part is now included as are the evacuation of the wounded from the 2 linked rebel held towns of zabadani and madyaa

 

[Videer]

Buses bound to evacuating people from besieged shiite enclaves of Fuah and Kefraya attacked. Attackers believed to be al Nusra.

 

[whougonnacall]

Buses bound to evacuating people from besieged shiite enclaves of Fuah and Kefraya attacked. Attackers believed to be al Nusra.

Its members of what used to be jund alaqsa before their recent merge into jfs and civilans from their area have done this crime...retards have not only attacked unarmed civilians but endangered another 50k+ ones in aleppo.
Rest of the buses are fine and on way

 

[whougonnacall]

Russia to block proposal to have un moniters to help evacuation deals go ahead

 

[whougonnacall]

-Isis attack in jordan

-isis continue to pressure tiyas airbase but after u.s airstrike knocks out multiple armoured vehicles and various pro regime militas being mobilized it seems all momentum has left that advance
Talk of large attack on deir el zour again though, with tiyas at least unusable with semi seige ongoing isis will have less airstrikes to trouble them.

-bus burning comdemned by fsa command and talk of brief clashs between anhar and jfs in idib over it....military merged command deal prob down toilet.

-fsa southern front bombed as they engage isis affilitate in daara ..seems a strange thing to do when the sf is dormant in anti assad actions