International Isis/syria/iraq thread

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Rod1 said:
Hope the fighting ends up soon.

Poor kurds, Assad and Erdogan are going to fuck them real bad.
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They trusted Americans, which was a bad sign from the start. It ain't the first time they got screwed by Uncle Same.
 
Kurdish forces taking out a Turkish tank in Syria.



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Rod1 said:
You can tell they are kurds because of the absence of allahu akhbars.
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They replace the snackbars with "Biji".

Fucker said "biji" so many goddamn times I'm gonna have to hit up a Korean restaurant for dinner and snag some biji jjigae... (to go along with the bulgogi of course... or bibimbap... DAMN YOU YPG for making my dinner selection so difficult!!)
 
Man, that area has become such a mess. Seeing Kurds fight Turks feels like just a waste of ammunition that could be spent on ISIS.

Thank fucking God we live on an isolated continent of three nations.
 
What a joke, IS captured a few villages from SDF south of Manbij. SDF is now getting some air cover while the message seems to be very clear: hold territory from IS until combined Turkish-rebel offensive pushes you out.

I'd like to know what kind of accord have Turkey reached with Russia as they apparently have very little problems with the offensive (obviously Assad criticized it because he has to). Less supplies to rebels in Aleppo? Will be interresting to see what happens when they reach close to SAA lines.

edit. Cant make this shit up.

 
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So interesting
-reports of around 80 russian troops being choppered into safria factory region south aleppo with a russian major

-kurd/fsa force continues to take large clumps of both isis and sdf/kurd territory

-rebels begin offensive in hama reportedly taking the largest town there helfria (spelling) as well as 4 villages and 14 checkpoints and ammo.
 
Battle of Jarablus the greatest battle never fought.

 
It started as a rebel vs regime, now Syria has turned into a Royal Rumble.

- Syrian government/Russia/Iran/Hezbollah
- ISIS
- Al-Qaeda and Gulf States backed Islamists
- YPG and Western backed rebels
- Turkey and Turkish backed Islamists
 
Rebel offensive in Hama results in them gaining a good bunch of territory. Multiple cluster bombs hit nearby but fail to really hit anything, cameraman has a close call though!

 
Orgasmo said:
It started as a rebel vs regime, now Syria has turned into a Royal Rumble.

- Syrian government/Russia/Iran/Hezbollah
- ISIS
- Al-Qaeda and Gulf States backed Islamists
- YPG and Western backed rebels
- Turkey and Turkish backed Islamists
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I'm hoping the Turks get Yemen'd in this incursion, Saudi-style. Looks like they may find the Kurds don't roll over as easily as they might hope.

ISIS is exposed and weak, but the major problem is nobody genuinely wants to take over and rule Jihadistan itself, it's filled with worthless headaches, poverty, and crazed Sunni militants. Raqqa is more of a landmine than a city. So they are fighting to seize valuable land around it.

I suspect that Iraq actually wants nothing to do with retaking Mosul, setting aside the military difficulty. If they were smart, they'd just wall that shit off Trump-style and call it a day.

What's really sad to see is how utterly, utterly shit the United States is at playing these games. Obama's strategy of comparative disengagement is the best thing he could've done. Our government seems to have no idea what is going at any time.
 
More turkish tanks cooking off is a given should they escalate. They are deploying old cold war relic m60 Pattons, not much better than a t-72. They don't have any real modern tanks really just upgraded stuff.

Problem is the geography of northern Syria. It's mostly open grassland or desert. No mountains like the PKK/Taliban/Houthis can hide and retreat to.
 
If and when SDF gets push back to the western part of the Euphrates, they should regroup and march on Raqqa and all territory north of the Euphrates. SAA and the FSA/Turkish army are certainly not going to beat them there. Also I'm sure the US will provide the proper air support.
 
Are there any notable generals/commanders in this conflict?

That have a strong resume.
 
Zankou said:
I'm hoping the Turks get Yemen'd in this incursion, Saudi-style. Looks like they may find the Kurds don't roll over as easily as they might hope.

ISIS is exposed and weak, but the major problem is nobody genuinely wants to take over and rule Jihadistan itself, it's filled with worthless headaches, poverty, and crazed Sunni militants. Raqqa is more of a landmine than a city. So they are fighting to seize valuable land around it.

I suspect that Iraq actually wants nothing to do with retaking Mosul, setting aside the military difficulty. If they were smart, they'd just wall that shit off Trump-style and call it a day.

What's really sad to see is how utterly, utterly shit the United States is at playing these games. Obama's strategy of comparative disengagement is the best thing he could've done. Our government seems to have no idea what is going at any time.
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US already blew it in Syria with its incoherent strategy. It doesn't seem to know what it wants. They want to depose Assad, but they don't want the alternative (Al-Qaeda/ISIS led Islamists). They support the Kurds, but don't want to piss Turkey off. You can't have it all when it comes to geopolitics.

Fronk said:
More turkish tanks cooking off is a given should they escalate. They are deploying old cold war relic m60 Pattons, not much better than a t-72. They don't have any real modern tanks really just upgraded stuff.

Problem is the geography of northern Syria. It's mostly open grassland or desert. No mountains like the PKK/Taliban/Houthis can hide and retreat to.
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T-72 is actually a superior tank to M60, both in terms of firepower and protection. It got a bad rep due to its poor performance in 1991 Gulf War, but that was mostly due to poorly trained Iraqi crew, "monkey" model and getting attacked constantly from the air. Despite all that, there were several cases of T-72s from the Iraqi Republican Guard giving American tankers some major headaches. The latest T-72B3M is actually quite comparable to T-90.

Turkey does have older Leopard 2 in service, but I haven't seen those deployed yet. Most recent sighting of those tanks were during the Turkish coup last month. It's safe to assume the commanders of those units have been purged, and deploying them on the field might be out of the question for a while.
 
Orgasmo said:
T-72 is actually a superior tank to M60, both in terms of firepower and protection. It got a bad rep due to its poor performance in 1991 Gulf War, but that was mostly due to poorly trained Iraqi crew, "monkey" model and getting attacked constantly from the air. Despite all that, there were several cases of T-72s from the Iraqi Republican Guard giving American tankers some major headaches. The latest T-72B3M is actually quite comparable to T-90.

Turkey does have older Leopard 2 in service, but I haven't seen those deployed yet. Most recent sighting of those tanks were during the Turkish coup last month. It's safe to assume the commanders of those units have been purged, and deploying them on the field might be out of the question for a while.
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The 200 or so leopard 2a4s they have arent too old plus most have been upgraded localy
Is say its either the coup that has them not deployed yet or simply the fact they arent needed as yet or both.
 
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