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Is Vince Vaughn supposed to be funny?

I used to think he was pretty funny, but I haven't thought much of him recently.

Curious to see how he is in True Detective.
 
Agreed. But I do think it was Stiller's character and humor that carried the film. Everything in between was filler to get back to Stiller. But still, Vince did great in the role. That's the type of role he thrives in.

yep, vince is funny in funny situations. him trying to make funny situations doesn't really work in my opinion, he's great at being involved, not carrying a situation.
 
He's a fast talker. I like him in his earlier roles in films like Swingers and Made (where he basically plays the same dude). He is decent in Old School and Wedding Crashers but clearly isn't carrying the comedic load in those movies.
 
yep, vince is funny in funny situations. him trying to make funny situations doesn't really work in my opinion, he's great at being involved, not carrying a situation.

I agree, but I personally think he is great at that role and is criminally underrated. He's got great charisma and knows how to play a part well without overshadowing the lead.
 
I liked him in Old School and Wedding Crashers. But overtime I felt he has gotten worse. I felt he phoned it in for Couple's Retreat as the "Guitar Hero salesman"
 
Vaughan is good. I can see why people got tired of his schtick, and, hell, he's probably tired of it too and thus very happy to be going back to dramatic roles with True Detective. But in his heyday- Swings, Made, Old School, Dodgeball, Wedding Crashee- he was pretty hilarious.

Again, as others have pointed out, he didn't start out as an exclusively comedic actor and just kind of went in that direction. He's capable of more than he's been delivering.

At the end of the day, though, True Detective will probably put him right back on the map.
 
Vince is a character actor. His bread and butter is that apathetic and sarcastic indifference to the situation. Some people like it, some people don't. But he's hardly the only one to do it. Lest we forget Eddie Murphy, Seth Rogen, Michael Cerra, etc.

I never got the Dane Cook hate, Harmful if Swallowed was fucking hilarious, and his bit about cheating and arguing with women was spot on and hilarious as well.

"MY FATHER WAS A BRILLIANT MAN!"

I actually liked a lot of his earlier stuff, like showing his dad FPS games. But he essentially just stopped putting any effort into his bits once he realized that college kids and people who don't really understand comedy were willing to pay money just for his delivery. Hence the soldout MSG show where he doesn't even tell constructive jokes, he just fleeces his delivery for an hour.
 
His first few specials were good, in my opinion. He was selling out MSG with ease and started getting some big acting gigs. I just don't think his style of comedy was something that is great for the long-term; his act just got old after a while. His insane popularity and tiring material back-fired on him, as it just became the "cool" thing to hate him. I've listened to him on a few podcast and he comes off as likable guy.

Yeah I never got the hate at all. I like a lot of standup guys and many of them are thought of much more highly than Cook but I thought he was damn funny. To me, Cook represented the whole notion that if it's widely popular, it can't be good- that sort of high brow poo pooing happens in standup comedy as in all other types of art/performance.
 
Vince is a character actor. His bread and butter is that apathetic and sarcastic indifference to the situation. Some people like it, some people don't. But he's hardly the only one to do it. Lest we forget Eddie Murphy, Seth Rogen, Michael Cerra, etc.



I actually liked a lot of his earlier stuff, like showing his dad FPS games. But he essentially just stopped putting any effort into his bits once he realized that college kids and people who don't really understand comedy were willing to pay money just for his delivery. Hence the soldout MSG show where he doesn't even tell constructive jokes, he just fleeces his delivery for an hour.

I didn't really see much of his later stuff but I do remember it being very fashionable to hate him back when I was a senior in college.

That special with him, Greg Giraldo, and Attell was pretty hysterical in my opinion.
Giraldo, RIP, the only guy who consistently killed it on those hit or miss celebrity roasts.


I watched a special from that Last Comic Standing chick Iliza Schlsinger on netflix with some friends. I don't want to judge her on the basis of one performance but I was the only one who kept giving a courtesy laugh here or there while we were watching. My other friends were just kind of sitting in silence. But yeah it was not particularly funny at all but she is particularly attractive and I think that's gotta be a major selling point. Seriously, she looked quite hot.

I at least respected that some of the earlier schtick shied away from the tried and true usual female standup humor where you just go full raunchy for the sake of raunchy a la Amy Schumer. It was more observational stuff. But then she went right in with the raunchy stuff and to me, unless your material is spot on or brings something fresh, it just comes off as lazy. She also did a lot of "voices/demonic possession of the vagina type stuff" that I couldn't really get into. Is there a female standup comic who really just consistently delivers the goods? I know that Leggero chick was funny at the Franco roast but mainly just via having great punch lines to rip into the other roasters.
 
I actually liked a lot of his earlier stuff, like showing his dad FPS games. But he essentially just stopped putting any effort into his bits once he realized that college kids and people who don't really understand comedy were willing to pay money just for his delivery. Hence the soldout MSG show where he doesn't even tell constructive jokes, he just fleeces his delivery for an hour.

I totally agree. I really got in to stand up right before he made it big and I thought he was great. Didn't get to hear anything of his for awhile after that and was confused where the hate came from when he made it big. Then I heard the new material he had put out and it all made sense. I am snob when it comes to stand up, and his set seemed completely hollow. Just saying random unfunny things but with the delivery of an actual joke. I was really disappointed because I thought he had potential.
 
"You can make their heads bleed in this one Mikey."

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He's a fast talker. I like him in his earlier roles in films like Swingers and Made (where he basically plays the same dude). He is decent in Old School and Wedding Crashers but clearly isn't carrying the comedic load in those movies.

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I'd actually day he's definitely carrying the comedic load in Wedding Crashers though. Wilson is more of the straight man and doesn't have nearly as many laughs. Cooper plays just a complete sack of shit to the point that he's not even funny, just a douchebag (except when he's telling his sea otter story- that's great) and Walken has some damn funny lines with his Walken delivery but is obviously not the focal point.

So yeah I'd say the weight is carried by Vaughan, Isla Fisher, and Wilson. But Vaughan steals the show.
 
I didn't really see much of his later stuff but I do remember it being very fashionable to hate him back when I was a senior in college.

That special with him, Greg Giraldo, and Attell was pretty hysterical in my opinion.
Giraldo, RIP, the only guy who consistently killed it on those hit or miss celebrity roasts.


I watched a special from that Last Comic Standing chick Iliza Schlsinger on netflix with some friends. I don't want to judge her on the basis of one performance but I was the only one who kept giving a courtesy laugh here or there while we were watching. My other friends were just kind of sitting in silence. But yeah it was not particularly funny at all but she is particularly attractive and I think that's gotta be a major selling point. Seriously, she looked quite hot.

I at least respected that some of the earlier schtick shied away from the tried and true usual female standup humor where you just go full raunchy for the sake of raunchy a la Amy Schumer. It was more observational stuff. But then she went right in with the raunchy stuff and to me, unless your material is spot on or brings something fresh, it just comes off as lazy. She also did a lot of "voices/demonic possession of the vagina type stuff" that I couldn't really get into. Is there a female standup comic who really just consistently delivers the goods? I know that Leggero chick was funny at the Franco roast but mainly just via having great punch lines to rip into the other roasters.

Here's the thing: women comics are in the same boat black comics were in 15 years ago. The audience is already expecting them riff on the self-depricating or observational bits about themselves, so they feel like they have to do the "women do this, men do that" or "here's the thing about us ladies for you guys" or else no one will pay attention to them. It's the equivalent of "Black people do this, white people do that" and "you white folks are crazy, here's why".

Black comics have been able to start turning a corner, with guys like Hannibal Buress evolving into more universal bits. And even guys like Kevin Hart and Patrice O'Neal (RIP) were/are able to attract more diverse audiences by having bits that were coming from a Black perspective, but not forced or artificial. Godfrey had Black material from the perspective of a 1st generation African, instead of the same old "urban" theme. Black comedians have started to just make comedy, as opposed to trying to force "Black" comedy down everyone's throat.

Women comedians haven't yet evolved in the same way. Their material is still either predicated upon an exclusively female perspective, or it's the same old faux-raunch that you mentioned. The best success so far has been Lisa Lamponelli (sp?), because her inter-racial sex bits were unprecedented and genuinely edgy at first. But she never built anything off of it, and it got played-out. Sarah Silverman has shown that she can be funny, but still refuses to leave behind the overzealous attempts at being offensive or controversial. Once women realize that they don't have to be pigeonholed by their sex, they can start delivering.

I am snob when it comes to stand up

I'm with you. O&A really turned me onto good comedy and put the nail in the coffin for Comedy Central types.

I actually just saw Steve Rannazzisi on Friday, and have tickets for Hannibal next month. In the last year I saw Bob Kelly, Tom Segura, and Doug Stanhope. Seeing guys like them makes it basically impossible to sit through the Sebastian Maniscalcos and Gabriel Iglesiases of the world.
 
You've just listed shit films that aren't funny.
Sarcastically I hope.

I said HES funny in them. I didn't say the movies were great. And wedding Crashers and old school are Fn awesome.

And the Internship is awesome. A lot of great social commentary in it.
 
Here's the thing: women comics are in the same boat black comics were in 15 years ago. The audience is already expecting them riff on the self-depricating or observational bits about themselves, so they feel like they have to do the "women do this, men do that" or "here's the thing about us ladies for you guys" or else no one will pay attention to them. It's the equivalent of "Black people do this, white people do that" and "you white folks are crazy, here's why".

Black comics have been able to start turning a corner, with guys like Hannibal Buress evolving into more universal bits. And even guys like Kevin Hart and Patrice O'Neal (RIP) were/are able to attract more diverse audiences by having bits that were coming from a Black perspective, but not forced or artificial. Godfrey had Black material from the perspective of a 1st generation African, instead of the same old "urban" theme. Black comedians have started to just make comedy, as opposed to trying to force "Black" comedy down everyone's throat.

Women comedians haven't yet evolved in the same way. Their material is still either predicated upon an exclusively female perspective, or it's the same old faux-raunch that you mentioned. The best success so far has been Lisa Lamponelli (sp?), because her inter-racial sex bits were unprecedented and genuinely edgy at first. But she never built anything off of it, and it got played-out. Sarah Silverman has shown that she can be funny, but still refuses to leave behind the overzealous attempts at being offensive or controversial. Once women realize that they don't have to be pigeonholed by their sex, they can start delivering.



I'm with you. O&A really turned me onto good comedy and put the nail in the coffin for Comedy Central types.

I actually just saw Steve Rannazzisi on Friday, and have tickets for Hannibal next month. In the last year I saw Bob Kelly, Tom Segura, and Doug Stanhope. Seeing guys like them makes it basically impossible to sit through the Sebastian Maniscalcos and Gabriel Iglesiases of the world.

Very well said.
 
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