Is this the definition of I showed up for the paycheck or what?

[Rvd Slmr]

This is.

Toney is probably still laughing about that one. Half a million dollars and that 5'10 dude didn't even show-up in shape for a heavyweight fight.

To be fair, he was really injured that time, CroCop broke his orbital. But yeah, I guess he hasn't spent a lot of time negotiating win bonus in the last 15 years.

 

[Deleted member 506663]

How does a professional throw such a sloppy punch?

Maybe he's not posted on sherdog enough

 

[tramendous]

Maybe he's not posted on sherdog enough

Hey man, dont sleep on dem sherdogger punches lol

 

[tramendous]

So Khabib, who threw the exact same punch against Conor, is not a professional?

Did you see khabib duck his head and turn his back to opponent as he stumbled off balance when he missed a punch?

 

[Morris88]

3 pages in and no mention of Nick fucking Diaz literally lying on his ass vs Anderson Silva?????

 

[NFLDer]

This was....

 

[HHJ]

3 pages in and no mention of Nick fucking Diaz literally lying on his ass vs Anderson Silva?????

I dont think Nick Diaz showed up with the intention of fighting in a dissapointing way. He just gave what he's got in him at that point in his career. Both of them were pretty depleted at that point.

If Nick cared about the paycheck,hed still be fighting

 

[chiefwiggum]

With mma gloves it's easy to have your jab countered by a overhand right which is Ngannou's best punch

If you have a great jab you can negate about everything.
The gloves. The jab. The easy counter. You can say that for every situation.

If you’re throwing an overhand with no setup from 12 feet away. There is no worse way to approach nganou than that.

It’s not just a jab. It’s feints. Movement you can kick and grapple. No better absent tool in mma than an effective jab.

It sets up everything. And with 4oz gloves. It even more effective.

 

[true_fan]

This

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This was....

was more like the biggest scam in sports’ history

 

[Morris88]

I dont think Nick Diaz showed up with the intention of fighting in a dissapointing way. He just gave what he's got in him at that point in his career. Both of them were pretty depleted at that point.

If Nick cared about the paycheck,hed still be fighting

I disagree, I thought he wasn't even trying and it was clear he didn't give a shit about winning.

But I hespect you so have a like anyway playboy

 

[NFLDer]

This

was more like the biggest scam in sports’ history

LOL only if you were sucker enough to pay for it.

 

[HHJ]

I disagree, I thought he wasn't even trying and it was clear he didn't give a shit about winning.

But I hespect you so have a like anyway playboy

I mean,i feel like Anderson's fights feel that way as well. He barely throws strikes,and its more about putting on a show to stall getting ko'd more than anything else.

 

[GrantB13]

Not even close.

 

[Morris88]

I mean,i feel like Anderson's fights feel that way as well. He barely throws strikes,and its more about putting on a show to stall getting ko'd more than anything else.

Now with Anderson I would agree that he's just depleted rather than turning up for a paycheck. The way he fights now is a bastardised version of his former self, trying to counter strike, clowning, using reflexes instead of fundamentally sound striking defence. He's just not able to execute it because he's lost the speed, his chin has been cracked, his leg is fucked, and he's lost the ability to string together finishing combinations, even though he can still throw powerful strikes (as we saw when he kicked DCs flabby belly and hurt him!)

 

[Sweater of AV]

In terms of a fight between two guys near their prime a good example is DC-Rumble 2.

 

[HHJ]

Now with Anderson I would agree that he's just depleted rather than turning up for a paycheck. The way he fights now is a bastardised version of his former self, trying to counter strike, clowning, using reflexes instead of fundamentally sound striking defence. He's just not able to execute it because he's lost the speed, his chin has been cracked, his leg is fucked, and he's lost the ability to string together finishing combinations, even though he can still throw powerful strikes (as we saw when he kicked DCs flabby belly and hurt him!)

I was a huge fan of Julio Caesar Chavez growing up...and i remember watching his later fights like against kostya tszu and it was hard to watch. He was so depleted and kept having to foul to stay in the fight. He still had the fighting spirit but his body would simply not obey. Kostya for his part took the fouling in stride. He knew this guy was just trying his best to stay in there.

 

[HHJ]

In terms of a fight between two guys near their prime a good example is DC-Rumble 2.

That seemed more like a bad gameplan to me... that was a fuckin title fight

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Then explain why would a pro throw an overhead right against the air and act as if he was even close?

Scared of Ngannou's power. It happens to a lot of fighters that fight him. They are scared to get in range of his strikes so they either throw too early, or too late.

 

[campbecc]

Is that big right hand all that much different than the one that KO's Cain and got JDS the heavyweight world title?

He just missed. Francis did not.

yes it's very different for two reasons, against Cain he threw it behind a jab and he was out of range against Ngannou.

 

[Sweater of AV]

That seemed more like a bad gameplan to me... that was a fuckin title fight

Showing up to get paid doesn't necessarily mean you just show up and lie down. AJ shooting for takedowns and giving up his neck without putting up a fight is showing up to get paid. And then of course the immediate retirement afterwards. If he had somehow won he might have been motivated to continue but he gave up and got out.