Elections Is this really 2020??

[rob mafia]

Nope. Her government has a pretty good track record, beginning with - but not limited to - the Christchurch response.

Not just corona. The leadership she showed handling the recent massive volcano eruption and major terrorist attack were also exemplary.

...to punish the law-abiding new zealanders because a criminal/foreigner (aus) killed new zealanders? thereby, making them even more defenseless?

"exemplary"

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

You're legit trying to compare Hawaii to NZ?
Come on - you get like 3 times as many tourists annually as they do, your population density is at least ten times what theirs is, and, frankly, Hawaii's a pretty underdeveloped shithole by comparison to New Zealand.

They're far more isolated than you in real terms.

No one on the face of the planet, who bothered to ask themselves the question, would have expected Hawaii to do anywhere near as well as NZ, in the face of Covid.

We’ve been shut down to tourists the entire time. You think we’ve been getting lots of tourists during this pandemic? Lmao. I’ll give you the population density, and that’s important of course, but the fact that Hawai'i can be said to be an undeveloped shithole compared to NZ, while being a state in one of the worlds richest and most powerful countries, isn’t exactly a black mark on New Zealand’s government is it?

And I looked it up, for 2020 NZ has had 300k more visitors than Hawai'i so far. In a usual year, yes Hawai'i has almost 3x the tourism. Not this year.

 

[Officer Rick]

it's more like 2363 but we really don't know

what we do know is that we scorched the skies. Your see at the time the machines were dependant on solar energy.

they found a new source of energy.... in us..

 

[PrinceOfPain]

We’ve been shut down to tourists the entire time.

I can't believe I have to explain this, but you were not shut down "the entire time". That would have been impossible.
In the months leading up to the shut down, during which time infected people were travelling the world without knowing they were infected, you'd have had more people popping in and out of your territory than NZ, making you a higher risk.

You think we’ve been getting lots of tourists during this pandemic?

No.
Do you think the virus waited until a pandemic was declared before it started infecting people?

I’ll give you the population density, and that’s important of course,

But somehow international travel is not?

but the fact that Hawai'i can be said to be an undeveloped shithole compared to NZ, while being a state in one of the worlds richest and most powerful countries, isn’t exactly a black mark on New Zealand’s government is it?

No, but it's certainly got nothing to do with anything their current leaders did, which is what the topic is.

And I looked it up, for 2020 NZ has had 300k more visitors than Hawai'i so far. In a usual year, yes Hawai'i has almost 3x the tourism. Not this year.

That might be true now, but it wasn't for December, January or February - March too I think.
This may shock you to learn, but this is not a time-travelling virus. Travelling today will not contribute to the initial impact of the outbreak.


Are you really going to continue trying to make the case that Hawaii is a valid comparison when discussing how NZ's relative isolation might have helped with their civvie response?

 

[Jesus H. Sherdog]

I can't believe I have to explain this, but you were not shut down "the entire time". That would have been impossible.
In the months leading up to the shut down, during which time infected people were travelling the world without knowing they were infected, you'd have had more people popping in and out of your territory than NZ, making you a higher risk.



No.
Do you think the virus waited until a pandemic was declared before it started infecting people?




But somehow international travel is not?



No, but it's certainly got nothing to do with anything their current leaders did, which is what the topic is.



That might be true now, but it wasn't for December, January or February - March too I think.
This may shock you to learn, but this is not a time-travelling virus. Travelling today will not contribute to the initial impact of the outbreak.


Are you really going to continue trying to make the case that Hawaii is a valid comparison when discussing how NZ's relative isolation might have helped with their civvie response?

You’re a snarky cunt aren’t you? We were shut down during our entire spike in infections.

COVID-19 has a 14 day incubation period, correct? Well then it would indeed have to be a time traveling virus if international visitors in December, January and February caused the spike in Hawai'i since it didn’t occur until August.

During the relevant time frame NZ actually had more visitors than Hawai’i, as I said. So who was more isolated? If Hawai'i had identified the initial transmission chains and isolated them through contact tracing like NZ did our results would be much better. NZ did a focused and brief shutdown instead of the long unfocused one in Hawai'i.

Of course no two countries or regions will be a perfect 1:1 comparison, but it would be foolish not to learn from the success NZ has had with their response and to attribute it solely to “isolation” as the poster I initially responded to did.

 

[Iron Nick]

New Zealand had one of the best responses in the world to Covid, shocking they re-elected their government instead of electing some right wing demagogue downplaying it, peddling cosnpiracies and doing jackshit about it for months while hundreds of thousands died from it.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Good for them. Great people and a beautiful country.

 

[Jonny Ninja]

Nah your subverted and smug lies won't work here.

Plenty of others outside of America believe in the right to bear arms. With the communist encroachment they're needed more than ever in Western countries and around the world.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves

Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population'

As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment – against a six-year-old gun control bill that stripped citizens of their weapons.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”

Have you ever been to NZ? Do you even know any kiwis? I very much doubt it based on the laughable nonsense you’re posting

you seem to think that ‘freedom’ means gun rights, lol. Very few first world countries (probably none) give 2 fcks about that outside of the US. The citizens and governments. No one cares, it’s not even a talking point! You’re link and claim is fckin laughable. Anyone with half a brain cell can see there is no correlation

you clearly have no idea what communism is or what is REALLY going on outside of your own bubble. You’re embarrassing yourself everytime you post

 

[Inquisitor]

Have you ever been to NZ? Do you even know any kiwis? I very much doubt it based on the laughable nonsense you’re posting

you seem to think that ‘freedom’ means gun rights, lol. Very few first world countries (probably none) give 2 fcks about that outside of the US. The citizens and governments. No one cares, it’s not even a issue! You’re link and claim is fckin laughable. Anyone with half a brain cell can see there is no correlation

you clearly have no idea what communism is or what is REALLY going on outside of your own bubble. You’re embarrassing yourself everytime you post

Another subverted soul.

Your argument is weak.

The communist ideological subversion is clearly visible in NZ. Social justice is everywhere and comrade Jacinda took people's rights and freedom away.

The ability to preserve liberty comes from the right to bear arms. Czech Republic secured their rights and the right wing in many countries care about gun rights and tyrannical government overreach.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves

Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population'

As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment – against a six-year-old gun control bill that stripped citizens of their weapons.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”




What's communism's kill count again?

 

[ShinkanPo]

Another subverted soul.

Your argument is weak.

The communist ideological subversion is clearly visible in NZ. Social justice is everywhere and comrade Jacinda took people's rights and freedom away.

The ability to preserve liberty comes from the right to bear arms. Czech Republic secured their rights and the right wing in many countries care about gun rights and tyrannical government overreach.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves

Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population'

As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment – against a six-year-old gun control bill that stripped citizens of their weapons.

“Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan teacher of English now exiled in Ecuador, told Fox News. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.”




What's communism's kill count again?

Can you post some more infos about the communist take over.

I would appreciate if you post the whole article as I have a problems opening links.

 

[Inquisitor]

Can you post some more infos about the communist take over.

I would appreciate if you post the whole article as I have a problems opening links.

School Programs Mixed With Social Marxism Spread Through America

Public schools across the United States increasingly are spending taxpayer money on programs that push quasi-Marxist ideology on their students.

School districts have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on programs such as Deep Equity, Youth Equity Stewardship (YES), and others that claim to help minority students do better at school, but have an ideological agenda mixed in.

Deep Equity and YES are provided by California-based for-profit educational company Corwin. On their face, the programs seek to expose teachers and students to different cultures to help them better understand students of different backgrounds. But piggybacked on that notion is the introduction of more far-left, progressive political theories such as “intersectionality” and “white privilege.”

Similar programs and initiatives have been introduced to thousands of schools, and many times, it appears that’s happened without parents noticing or understanding what they entail.

New Marxism
According to Michael Rectenwald, a former liberal studies professor at New York University and author of “Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom” and “Springtime for Snowflakes: ‘Social Justice’ and Its Postmodern Parentage,” the intersectional theory replaced Marxism among contemporary leftists, but bears many similarities to Marxism.

Instead of focusing solely on “class struggle,” the theory applies the Marxist concept of “struggle” broadly to relationships between races, genders, ethnicities, religions, and a plethora of other “identity groups.”

“In the case of Marxism, the solution is revolution and overthrow of the ruling class, the bourgeoisie or capitalist class. In the case of intersectionality, the solution is to eradicate the ‘privilege’ of the oppressor identity group,” Rechtenwald told The Epoch Times in an email.

Through the lens of intersectional theory, human history is largely reduced to white Christian men being the “oppressors,” and everybody else being “intersected” by one or more layers of this “oppression.”

Literary critic and author Bruce Bawer wrote in his book, “The Victims’ Revolution: The Rise of Identity Studies and the Closing of the Liberal Mind,” that “they’ve been trained to reduce the rich complexities and ambiguities of human life to simple formulas about oppressors and oppressed, capitalists and workers, Western imperialists and their non-Western victims.”

Similarly, the Deep Equity training manual blames different average educational outcomes between different groups of students on such “systems of oppression.”

The manual, a copy of which was reviewed by The Epoch Times, states, “We go deeply into those historical and contemporary dynamics that have created and sustained systems of oppression, marginalization, and inequity for far too many of our students and their families.”

While the common meaning of oppression usually refers to cruel treatment and subjugation by tyrannical authority, advocates of intersectionality have the term encompass “implicit” (meaning unintentional) actions in day-to-day life.

For example, assuming that somebody is heterosexual in a casual conversation is called “heterosexism” and is one of the many “insidious and often implicit and intersectional inequities” and “oppressions,” according to a 2016 paper by Paul Gorski, founder of the Equity Literacy Institute (ELI) (pdf).

Equity
“Equity” as portrayed by advocates of “intersectionality” means a demand for students from “identity groups” they deem “oppressed” to receive more resources.

They insist that the cause for any difference in average outcomes between the groups must be some form of discrimination, according to Robin Eubanks, a lawyer, education researcher, in her book “Credentialed to Destroy: How and Why Education Became a Weapon.”

Even though “equity” advocates often claim they want to ensure success for everyone, ELI makes clear that “equity” is about taking from some in order to give to others.

“Equity is about redistributing access and opportunity, so equity initiatives should be about redistributing access and opportunity,” its website says.

YES
The YES guidebook, reviewed by The Epoch Times, promotes much of the same ideology as Deep Equity but in a less obvious manner, such as through art assignments and lyrics of songs taught to the students.

“Essentially, students and teachers are being taught anti-white, anti-Christian hate,” said a parent of a child in the Chandler, Arizona, Unified School District (CUSD), which includes over 45,000 students in the southeastern part of the Phoenix metropolitan area. “Students are taught to lecture adults about their biases. They are being taught to be social justice activists.”

The district introduced YES and Deep Equity in 2018 at a cost of more than $400,000, Arizona Daily Independent reported.

District officials have defended the programs, saying YES is voluntary for students and that with Deep Equity, the district only used some parts and left out the material parents mainly objected to.

Yet some parents questioned why the district spent money on the programs in the first place, instead of investing in proven measures such as reducing the number of students in each class.

Moreover, YES instructs its participants to proselytize its ideas among students, parents, and school staff.

“It was this training that was specifically activist training and does include more social justice concepts, including oppression and privilege,” the parent, who asked to remain anonymous, said in an email to The Epoch Times.

The district officials themselves, it appears, have subscribed to the theories underpinning the programs.

A questionnaire for applicants to the district’s “Equity Advisory Board” asks, “What experience do you have personally or professionally that helps you to understand issues related to educational equity, diversity and or the intersectionality of race, gender, class, religion and sexual orientation, language, special education, etc.?”

It’s not clear how many school districts have adopted Deep Equity or YES. Social media posts indicate that at least some districts across Arizona, Kansas, and Virginia have done so.

Corwin and CUSD didn’t respond to emailed questions.

What Is ELI?
ELI is a North Carolina-based for-profit, offering “equity assessment,” workshops, and “strategic planning” to schools. It provides on its website materials such as “Ideological Adjustments for Well-Meaning White Educators” and advocating principles such as “prioritize equity over peace.”

“Never, under any circumstance, should equity concerns be handled through processes that assume parties occupy similar spaces along the privilege-oppression continuum,” the website states, channeling the intersectional worldview.

The website says ELI has been hired by “several organizations, schools, and universities … to help ‘begin the conversation’ about equity,” also stating that Gorski “has worked with educators in 48 states and a dozen countries.”

Aside from lecturing on social justice at George Mason University, Gorski has authored a number of books on social justice topics, such as the 2012 title, “Cultivating Social Justice Teachers: How Teacher Educators Have Helped Students Overcome Cognitive Bottlenecks and Learn Critical Social Justice Concepts.”

It’s not clear in how many states ELI is currently active.

The Minnesota government is offering teachers ELI workshops for $400 a head, lunch included.

Vermont handed out nearly $200,000 earlier this year in “Equity Literacy Grants” to 13 of its school districts, including one for the Orange Southwest School District for a multi-year project with ELI.

Gorski didn’t respond to emailed questions.

Here's the full Yuri Bezmenov video.



Other videos worth watching.

 

[Inquisitor]

@ShinkanPo

Here's the rest of the article.

Seed the Way
Another of the Vermont grants went to a project partnering with Seed the Way, a for-profit education consultancy led by Rebecca Haslam, who was awarded Vermont’s State Teacher of the Year in 2015 and is an assistant professor at St. Michael’s College.

The company’s website lists past clientele of dozens of schools, school districts, and colleges and offers training on “Equity Literacy” and services such as “unpacking the Social Justice Standards K-12.”

The “Standards” were produced by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as “age-appropriate learning outcomes divided into four domains—identity, diversity, justice, and action.”

In one “anti-bias scenario,” the standards encourage students to speak against other students who criticize breaking immigration laws (pdf).

Haslam didn’t respond to emailed questions.

The Vermont Agency of Education “considers data and legislation to inform policy and practice, including how to prioritize grant opportunities,” Ted Fisher, the agency’s director of Communications and Legislative Affairs, told The Epoch Times in an email.

“These can and often do validate intersectional theory (as it is understood to explicate that individuals can experience marginalization when belonging to many ‘groups’—e.g., economic disadvantage and female; Latinx and LGBTQ; etc.).”

When asked whether the agency subscribes to the intersectional explanation that such “marginalization” is caused by “oppression” by “white Christian heteropatriarchy,” Fisher didn’t respond.

State Roll-Out
Intersectionality doesn’t always enter schools through consultants. Sometimes, states roll it out themselves.

The New York State Department of Education issued a “Culturally Responsive-Sustaining Education Framework” earlier this year (pdf), with goals to not only help students academically but also to “create … students who are sociopolitically conscious and socioculturally responsive” and “who have a critical lens through which they challenge inequitable systems of access, power, and privilege.”

Such students should “act as agents of social change to redress historical and contemporary oppression,” the document says.

Since 2018, Oregon has required schools by law to teach children starting in grade five to “identify issues related to historical events to recognize power, authority, and governance as it relates to systems of oppression and its impact on ethnic and religious groups and other traditionally marginalized groups in the modern era.”

Earlier this year, California put out, for public comment, an “Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum” for high schools, promising the courses will “critique empire and its relationship to white supremacy, racism, patriarchy, cisheteropatriarchy, capitalism, ableism, anthropocentrism, and other forms of power and oppression at the intersections of our society.”

The state announced in September that it will “revise and improve” the curriculum. The move came after education researcher Williamson Evers criticized the proposal in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

“Teaching objective history clearly isn’t the goal,” he wrote. “Rather, it’s training students to become ideological activists and proponents of identity politics.”

By Force of Law
It was legal mandates that prompted Eubanks a decade ago to start researching the changing landscape of education, after she noticed legislation that, in her view, opened the door to detrimental changes in education.

She’s predicted that the only way to reach the goals of the “equity” advocates would be to change the nature of education itself, moving away from traditional academics and focusing instead on emotions and “experience.”

Eubanks dreaded that vision, pointing out that this way of teaching has known neural effects—it “rewires the brain.” In her view, the schools are increasingly focusing on manufacturing experiences for children, to mold their reactions and worldviews to have them become advocates for a prescribed vision of the world.

“The purpose of equity mandate is consistently to shift the nature of what goes on in education and to do it to us, to make it mandatory,” she said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/schoo...l-marxism-spread-through-america_3152761.html

 

[Inquisitor]

Communism is just a political view!

Wait what do you mean victims?

West Point grad who posed with 'Communism will win' in cap discharged
https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-point-grad-who-posed-with-communism-will-win-in-cap-discharged

Discharged?!?! Why!?!? This is fascist!!!

 

[errol ansen]

Not really when you come to the conclusion that half baked intellectuals occupy positions of power in the governments of every Western Nation.

So since the USA can't seem to get its act together on this matter, does that make the USA a non-Western nation now?

Is the USA now a shit hole country like Trump classified other states?

 

[Rocco Siffredi]

Nope. Her government has a pretty good track record, beginning with - but not limited to - the Christchurch response.

And New Zealand, a nation of 5 million, has had only less than 2000 Covid cases and 25 deaths.

1 death per 200,000 inhabitants.



The US has 1 death per 1,500 inhabitants.

I'd think competence and results matter.

lets compare travel to and from both countries and also city sizes.... I hope you don't think it is a single factor problem...like a potato would...

 

[ShinkanPo]

Communism is just a political view!

Wait what do you mean victims?

West Point grad who posed with 'Communism will win' in cap discharged
https://www.foxnews.com/us/west-point-grad-who-posed-with-communism-will-win-in-cap-discharged

Discharged?!?! Why!?!? This is fascist!!!

Can you elaborate this further?

 

[Inquisitor]

So since the USA can't seem to get its act together on this matter, does that make the USA a non-Western nation now?

Is the USA now a shit hole country like Trump classified other states?

Rather than be concerned about communist brainwashing on a global scale, you spitefully post TDS. The media is telling you how to think.

You actually care more about the shithole comment many of us have made. Priorities.

Communism is the greatest enemy we've ever faced.

Wide swaths of brainwashed leftists making sure the Asian, European and Middle Eastern elite have complete control over the world's resources and people's minds.

Without America there's no one to stand up to the world's tyrants.

 

[Inquisitor]

Can you elaborate this further?

The European elite hate America and anyone that defies them. They hate peasant freedom and want to control everything. They invented communism and spread it all over the world as a way to achieve their goals.

Commies were pissed that half of Korea was saved and that countries were rejecting communism so they switched over to psychological warfare. Yuri explains it in detail. With America and its allies out of the way the plan to brainwash voters and create one party states and dictatorships can continue unabated. China will lead the new world order.

Communist ideologies have killed more people than any other.

The brainwashing is so effective though that students will still embrace communism. So brainwashed they spray paint communism will win on memorials to the many victims of the ideology. They can get their puppets to infiltrate all level of America, including the military. That's why so many occupy all the different positions of power.



China’s propaganda machine is telling the Arab world that the coronavirus pandemic will propel the communist regime to a “leading role in the new world order,” supplanting the United States.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/3/coronavirus-will-make-china-leader-new-world-order/

 

[Sir Punchalot]

America is the last stand on earth. I have no idea why the ideological subversion doesn't do anything to the right wing in all these countries, but what I can say is that it's a good thing we still have people willing to fight for freedom.

If America wins, hopefully that will encourage others to do the same.

 

[Inquisitor]

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