Is there any Nate Diaz prototype fighter in his Prime in the UFC (Endless Cardio, unbreakable Chin)

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This type of prototype will be an interesting match-up for Ilia who relies on his power but if he runs into a zombie who doesn´t go away no matter what you throw at him.

Wait a second there is one guy who might actully even be an upgraded Diaz Prototype and I know he got outpointed by Volk it was close fight but I would love to See Lopes move up to take on Ilia and I think stylistically that is a bad match up for Ilia and he won´t put away Lopes no matter what he throws at him even if he hits him with a baseball bat Lopes ain´t going anywhere
 
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Jeffery09 said:
This type of prototype will be an interesting match-up for Ilia who relies on his power but if he runs into a zombie who doesn´t go away no matter what you throw at him.

Wait a second there is one guy who might actully even be an upgraded Diaz Prototype and I know he got outpointed by Volk it was close fight but I would love to See Lopes move up to take on Ilia and I think stylistically that is a bad match up for Ilia and he won´t put away Lopes no matter what he throws at him even if he hits him with a baseball bat Lopes ain´t going anywhere
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Well...Josh Thomson's shin seemed to stop zombie Nate.

And Volk/Lopes wasn't really close. Plus where are you getting this "endless cardio" for Lopes?

Your whole premise is off and it seems like you really wanted to grasp at a straw about Lopes being the answer for Ilia. Which...he very much likely is not.
 
Nate Diaz isn't Nick. His cardio isn't insane. He gets tired and his volume drops. His meaningful offense usually drops by the end of the fight. I will admit he is usually down by points and is on his way to losing a decision so he might as well taunt. Strikeforce era Nick was something special in terms of volume. He didn't pick his shots like Nate. Nate is a more technical boxer than Nick. Nick just threw and tried to overwhelm a fighter if they stood in front of him.

Max when he gets going is very impressive in terms of volume. Royval threw a lot of volume in his fight with Van. Colby before he aged out was an animal when it came to pressure.
 
NoSmilez said:
Nate Diaz isn't Nick. His cardio isn't insane. He gets tired and his volume drops. His meaningful offense usually drops by the end of the fight. I will admit he is usually down by points and is on his way to losing a decision so he might as well taunt. Strikeforce era Nick was something special in terms of volume. He didn't pick his shots like Nate. Nate is a more technical boxer than Nick. Nick just threw and tried to overwhelm a fighter if they stood in front of him.

Max when he gets going is very impressive in terms of volume. Royval threw a lot of volume in his fight with Van. Colby before he aged out was an animal when it came to pressure.
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Nick was legit champ level fighter. If gsp isnt there he could have won a belt. Nate was never doing that
 
It depends on who you talk too. Sherdog has been talking about Ilia in these terms (but maybe with more pressure) and according to Paddy, it is Paddy.
 
Jeffery09 said:
This type of prototype will be an interesting match-up for Ilia who relies on his power but if he runs into a zombie who doesn´t go away no matter what you throw at him.

Wait a second there is one guy who might actully even be an upgraded Diaz Prototype and I know he got outpointed by Volk it was close fight but I would love to See Lopes move up to take on Ilia and I think stylistically that is a bad match up for Ilia and he won´t put away Lopes no matter what he throws at him even if he hits him with a baseball bat Lopes ain´t going anywhere
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Oi whitey,
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You mean Nick Diaz, not Nate Diaz.
 
Royval and Van both deserve mentions, not just for their recent fight but their style and ufc history, both high volume, pressure strikers, albeit Royval is a more complete weapon with flying knees, kicks and submissions, however what Joshua does with his boxing is poetry in motion. Those body shots are simply poetic, those combinations that defy physics are exquisite. And lets not forget about Royval with his 3 days deep meth like pressure and volume that is only matched by Nick Diaz after injecting an eight ball of marijuana.

Don't get started on chins, both boys proved they got one and don't bring up them both being finished once or I'll bring up Nick Diaz being tko'ed by punches in 2002 or Nate eating Josh Thompsons shin.
 
mkess101 said:
Well...Josh Thomson's shin seemed to stop zombie Nate.
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big respect to punk thompson, but he didn't really seem to KO nate just hurt him really bad and TKO'd him.

Not trying to be semantic, but i think that head kick finish COULD be viewed as evidence of how good nates chin REALLY is.
 
RockyLockridge said:
big respect to punk thompson, but he didn't really seem to KO nate just hurt him really bad and TKO'd him.

Not trying to be semantic, but i think that head kick finish COULD be viewed as evidence of how good nates chin REALLY is.
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Ahh, it hurt Nate so badly that he couldn't defend himself anymore and was getting his face caved in to where his brother threw in the towel.

An "indestructible" chin would be eating the head kick and not being hurt.

But the guy I was quoting wasn't just saying Nate had a "good" chin (he did). He was basically saying that Nate could eat any shot thrown at him and keep coming. So on that front...no.
 
mkess101 said:
Ahh, it hurt Nate so badly that he couldn't defend himself anymore and was getting his face caved in to where his brother threw in the towel.

An "indestructible" chin would be eating the head kick and not being hurt.

But the guy I was quoting wasn't just saying Nate had a "good" chin (he did). He was basically saying that Nate could eat any shot thrown at him and keep coming. So on that front...no.
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Josh had to kick Nate like 10 times in the head before he went down. besides Mark Hunt, name someone else who took flush head kicks like that.
 
Blastbeat said:
Josh had to kick Nate like 10 times in the head before he went down. besides Mark Hunt, name someone else who took flush head kicks like that.
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Uhh, it was the one flush head kick that did it. Not the other glancing ones during the fight.

Nate had a very good chin. But not indestructible. Before the Topuria fight, we could've said Max had the closest thing we've seen to an indestructible chin. Never dropped in a long career.
 
mkess101 said:
Uhh, it was the one flush head kick that did it. Not the other glancing ones during the fight.

Nate had a very good chin. But not indestructible. Before the Topuria fight, we could've said Max had the closest thing we've seen to an indestructible chin. Never dropped in a long career.
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yeah then Josh still had to jump on him and punch him for a TKO. ive never seen Nate out cold ever.

i think the best chin in the UFC now is Chito Vera. i havent ever seen him bothered by any strike apart from that one knee O'Malley hit him with, and he didnt even go down from that.
 
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