Is there a point a fighter who has given enough to the JBG to call his own shots

[Mind Mine]

Take Jones out of the equation a second. Since there is no agreement possible on Jones. At what point and what does a fighter have to give back to you as a fan that rank doesn’t matter anymore? You only care to see him happy and fighting because he is the last of the old school era? How many years and how many wars? Or do you as a fan expect that the fighter to chase rank and not big fights his whole career? We will leave Jones out of the discussion. Who has earned that right and should it exist?

 

[svmr_db]

"JBG" The Just Bleed Guy?

 

[Subline]

Yes. Guys like Dom Cruz, Jose Aldo, even Tony Ferguson deserve that right imo. It's fine as long as you're not holding a title hostage.

 

[Dr. Rose]

Yes. Guys like Dom Cruz, Jose Aldo, even Tony Ferguson deserve that right imo. It's fine as long as you're not holding a title hostage.

Interesting, How about Condit?

 

[Ruke Doufus]

There are lots of guys who've earned that right, just not while holding a title.

 

[JBJ was here]

I keep reading the title of this thread as "Is there a point fighter who has given enough to the JBG he should call his own shots" and find it quite disorienting.

 

[doozer]

As said above. As long as the champ isn’t doing it I don’t care. I can understand that exceptions can be made because someone wants a fight really badly and they don’t think that person will make it to the title. O’Malley wanted his only loss back, Jones wanted to beat stepe, but as a general rule of thumb champions should ask for the most deserving, but more importantly that’s what the ufc should give them no matter what they ask for.
As for anyone else they can ask for anyone they want whether for money or to climb the rankings, and that is the case whether they are a hot prospect, a former champ in his last days or a nobody. You might not get it but you can ask for whatever you want.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Not as champion, no. Jon absolutely can call the shots if he vacates the belt but as long as he holds it, he will be expected to defend regardless of what his boyfriend Dana lets him do with special rules. The HW belt is not a career achievement award, especially not when those achievements were done in a separate division.

Please don’t let the UFC turn into boxing where there’s multiple champs who pad their records against cans instead of fighting eachother. Multiple champs in the UFC were stripped for not fighting contenders but Jon gets special rules and it’s annoying to see

 

[Mind Mine]

Not as champion, no. Jon absolutely can call the shots if he vacates the belt but as long as he holds it, he will be expected to defend regardless of what his boyfriend Dana lets him do with special rules. The HW belt is not a career achievement award, especially not when those achievements were done in a separate division.

Please don’t let the UFC turn into boxing where there’s multiple champs who pad their records against cans instead of fighting eachother. Multiple champs in the UFC were stripped for not fighting contenders but Jon gets special rules and it’s annoying to see

Please reread and come again Brother I just want to see how sherdog views the situation without putting Jones name in it and here you go with the sucka shit

 

[BlackNathan]

Remember when Bisping won the title and everyone hated him for fighting Henderson? How did the jbg punish him? The biggest fight of his life with the natty goat. Didn’t do too bad either in that fight. The perfect pay day to ride off into the sunset. Then he fought gastelum… I don’t think any fighter ever does a good retirement tour. They always start one and then push it too far or retire “too early”.

 

[Soggust]

Should Tom Brady get to resign with the Buccaneers but only play games vs CAR, NO and other suitable matchups that he identifies as good opportunities? And he could sit out against PHI, PIT or other tough defenses that might affect his health or stats? But the wins and Super Bowls will all still count the same??

Or perhaps Magnus Carlsen, who is the best Chess player in the world. Should he be able to just take matchups against IMs instead of GMs because he doesn't want to risk his ELO by taking on tough competition at this stage in his career? And we would consider this valid?

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I don't think I agree that they should be able to cherry pick their fights at any point.

Well, they are welcome to, but in the same vein, the crowd is welcome to respond accordingly and treat the fighter as a duck.

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Please reread and come again Brother I just want to see how sherdog views the situation without putting Jones name in it and here you go with the sucka shit

It’s “sucks shit” to demand the champion be held to the same rules as everybody else? Champs have to defend. Period. The title is not a lifetime achievement award or participation trophy.

I’d feel the same way regardless if any other champ blatantly refused to fight an interim champ and the UFC gave him an easy fight against a washed and long retired fighter instead.

It’s not about Jon, it’s about the title. He could vacate tomorrow and I’d forget about it and be excited for his next fight. It’s the fact he’s holding a division hostage that irks me. I’d feel the same if anyone else did it.

 

[Mind Mine]

It’s “sucks shit” to demand the champion be held to the same rules as everybody else? Champs have to defend. Period. The title is not a lifetime achievement award or participation trophy.

I’d feel the same way regardless if any other champ blatantly refused to fight an interim champ and the UFC gave him an easy fight against a washed and long retired fighter instead.

It’s not about Jon, it’s about the title. He could vacate tomorrow and I’d forget about it and be excited for his next fight. It’s the fact he’s holding a division hostage that irks me. I’d feel the same if anyone else did it.

Please Sir I understand Jones is the talk of the tone but if someone SPECIFICALLY makes a thread saying TAKE JONES OUT OF IT. And you do what you just did take accountability for the wack ass shit you pulled buddy. Stop pretending as if I made up something about you. You pulled a wack move. It happens