Is there a connection between American wrestling culture and cheating?

[ChessJitsu]

Just a stream of thoughts I had 5 minutes ago...

Who are the most prolific cheaters in UFC history?

Jon Jones is easily #1 with eye pokes, steroids, etc.

Then you have Kamaru Usman, Michael Chandler, TJ Dillashaw.

Then you have guys who don't necessarily cheat but try to win by foul-calling or exaggerating/exploiting technicalities like Sterling and Weidman.

Also it's common when 2 wrestlers fight, and 1 of them fouls, the other one starts trying to outfoul the person (Colby-Kamaru, DC-Stipe).

Is there a connection here or am I reaching?

 

[Buckland]

Probably. Wrestling takes grit.

 

[Andy 93]

Chandler's cheating was wild. Lost count of the amount of shit he pulled.

 

[orca]

all of them try to cheat all of them wants to have an edge
remember gsp? with some vaseline grease..the man did even retired when usada came because of drug testing

if your a full grown man with a full grown brain you should know this by now

we also have rules
if the rules or referee judged it as fair then its fair
they are profesionals who doesnt use their feelings to judge

also cant remember jones eyepoked someone and didnt gave them time to recover

 

[ThaiSexPills]

If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying

 

[Shaolin Alan]

Was Conor a wrestler all along then??

 

[Jose Beehive]

 

[jko1355]

Are you trying to race bait? 50% of the fighters you named are black when only 10% of Americans are black

 

[joy2day]

No. There are too many problems with your hypothesis to even get started.

Palhares anyone? Gilbert Yvel?

 

[Fergelmince]

Definitely. It's a NASCAR "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'" sort of thing.

 

[Usssssyyyy]

They been juicing since early on in their lives, most of them have been life long cheaters.

 

[Dave Poodle]

..the man did even retired when usada came because of drug testing

When are morons going to stop pushing this bullshit? There was no drug testing on the horizon when he left. On the night of his last fight before stepping away Dana said he never wanted to hear the words drug testing again. They brought USADA in after Anderson popped for roids.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

For one, no.

Two, "American" wrestlers are the most common nationality and athletic group in the UFC...as it is based in America.

 

[Fedorgasm]

The common thread is not American wrestling, it's Americans. We have this stupid culture of winning at all costs which encourages cheating.

I like the Japanese culture better, where they value courage and honor above wins and losses.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

The common thread is not American wrestling, it's Americans. We have this stupid culture of winning at all costs which encourages cheating.

I like the Japanese culture better, where they value courage and honor above wins and losses.

There is cheating in all cultures....the stereotypes about Brazilian's and Russians cheating at sports is far greater than any slander about Americans cheating. Do they have a "win at all cost" culture too?

Americans are not particularly known for cheating. This is totally just some random sherdog thing.

TS listed 4 guys, look up how many Americans have ever fought in the UFC. Do the math and see how easily this is to debunk.

 

[Iroh]

Just a stream of thoughts I had 5 minutes ago...

Who are the most prolific cheaters in UFC history?

Jon Jones is easily #1 with eye pokes, steroids, etc.

Then you have Kamaru Usman, Michael Chandler, TJ Dillashaw.

Then you have guys who don't necessarily cheat but try to win by foul-calling or exaggerating/exploiting technicalities like Sterling and Weidman.

Also it's common when 2 wrestlers fight, and 1 of them fouls, the other one starts trying to outfoul the person (Colby-Kamaru, DC-Stipe).

Is there a connection here or am I reaching?

Weidman definitely cheats the conventional way, ask Bruno Silva.

 

[Thy]

i dunno, ask brazil

 

[TITS]

Just a stream of thoughts I had 5 minutes ago...

Who are the most prolific cheaters in UFC history?

Jon Jones is easily #1 with eye pokes, steroids, etc.

Then you have Kamaru Usman, Michael Chandler, TJ Dillashaw.

Then you have guys who don't necessarily cheat but try to win by foul-calling or exaggerating/exploiting technicalities like Sterling and Weidman.

Also it's common when 2 wrestlers fight, and 1 of them fouls, the other one starts trying to outfoul the person (Colby-Kamaru, DC-Stipe).

Is there a connection here or am I reaching?

Where are you from?

 

[Dogshare]

There is a connection between humans and cheating and humans do wrestle, so yes there is a connection.

 

[Egészségére!]

Maybe a little

Generally speaking it's not a culture that promotes honor & respect like most of the Eastern martial arts