International Is the US Constitution gonna be a thing of the past?

avenue94 said:
Is your reading comprehension this bad? Do you not understand what "key to democratization or protecting democracy means"? It means successful instances where democratization happened or democracy was protected.

You could just say you misread it or don't know your history. Again, what years were France or Mexica a democracy after their violent revolutions? If you can't name this, you are ill equipped to provide anything mildly intelligent on this subject.
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Where did I say the examples I provided were all 100% long-lasting successes?

Several of the examples I gave had an immediate impact and resulted in a change at the time. You chose to ignore that, immediately went to how things ultimately played out, and deemed them all failures.

I didn't say that France or Mexico were a democracy.
 
spamking said:
Several of the examples I gave had an immediate impact and resulted in a change at the time. You chose to ignore that, immediately went to how things ultimately played out, and deemed them all failures.
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Except that change wasn't a democracy (or one lasting longer than a months if I'm being very generous). Again, that's why I asked, what years were France and Mexico democracies after their respective revolutions? Surely you should be able to answer that basic question.

And yes...if the premise is let's assess instances of successful democratizations, then focusing on which ones were successful and which ones were less successful is kind of the point.
 
avenue94 said:
Except that change wasn't a democracy (or one lasting longer than a months if I'm being very generous). Again, that's why I asked, what years were France and Mexico democracies after their respective revolutions? Surely you should be able to answer that basic question.
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Why did you leave out the part of my post where I answered that question?
avenue94 said:
And yes...if the premise is let's assess instances of successful democratizations, then focusing on which ones were successful and which ones were less successful is kind of the point.
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You could've save me a lot of time if you would've actually included this in your original question ignored the last half of what you asked as well.
 
spamking said:
Why did you leave out the part of my post where I answered that question?
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The part where you said France and Mexico weren't' democracies? Yeah I left it out because it means you didn't answer the original question in any way since I asked for successful example's of democratization and you gave me failures. There's nothing to talk about then since you still haven't offered even a basic answer to the question.
spamking said:
You could've save me a lot of time if you would've actually included this in your original question ignored the last half of what you asked as well.
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...It was included in the original post you replied to. Your lack of reading comprehension is a you problem.
 
avenue94 said:
The part where you said France and Mexico weren't' democracies? Yeah I left it out because it means you didn't answer the original question in any way since I asked for successful example's of democratization and you gave me failures. There's nothing to talk about then since you still haven't offered even a basic answer to the question.

...It was included in the original post you replied to. Your lack of reading comprehension is a you problem.
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Sure thing buddy . . . and don’t worry, I comprehended just fine—it's my skill in interpreting cryptic messages that's still a work in progress. Thanks for the feedback, though.
 
spamking said:
Sure thing buddy . . . and don’t worry, I comprehended just fine—it's my skill in interpreting cryptic messages that's still a work in progress. Thanks for the feedback, though.
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Not sure what you mean by cryptic messages, but if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Or not.
 
Richmma80 said:
There was some polling done and immigrants to the US don't value the US constitution as much as the non migrant whites in the country. Many believe that free speech does not include hate speech and see the 2nd amendment as an archaic way of thinking. I think we will eventually see the constituion modified to fit the new Americans of the future, and rightfully so. Free speech should have more limitations and guns should be banned from civilian use.
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Yes, because laws, rights, etc. none of these things really exist, society operates based merely on consensus and coercion. By 2041 the US will become a majority-minority nation and this "consensus" will decrease due to lower social cohesion (as a result of higher diversity) and consequently the Constitution will become more "fluid" and "flexible" as society becomes more corrupt and ungovernable.
 
Rod1 said:
Yup, but much closer than anything immigrants or Democrats are doing.

This is a thread fearmongering about how brown people will end freedom in America when its the right wing that presents the largest threat to freedom at the moment, since they got sucked in fascism light banana populism.
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Democrats? Really?

They both suck right now.

Pretty sure the thread is about culturally alien people doing it, not brown people specifically.
 
Nizam al-Mulk said:
Democrats? Really?

They both suck right now.

Pretty sure the thread is about culturally alien people doing it, not brown people specifically.
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Ok both suck but one is clearly fucking with the Constitution
 
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