History Is serving in the military a noble profession?

[crabmeat]

Yes, for the most part. But it's not as noble as many people make it out to be. It's a job. And most aren't infantry doing dangerous work in the field. And even infantry isn't quite as noble as many would make it out to be. But, still pretty noble, especially since most of them are basically kids. I was a decorated combat vet by 22 years old.

I turned 18 on USS Belleau Wood. 50 day later, I hit Green Beach.

 

[boingyman]

Depends. The military is huge. Although each person plays a role, the vast majority are not doing any combat. For many it's a great gig by having a stable income and great benefits/perks. Some use it to build towards a career with training and school. I've worked in a military hospital since 2009. I remember back in 2010 my boss asked me if I wanted to join. She was just playing around, but also serious at the same time. At the time I had no interest, but if I could go back in time I would have given it a shot. I would have came in as a O-3 (Captain), due to my previous work experience in my profession and advanced degree. Chances are I would have deployed to Afghanistan, but would have been inside Bagram 100% of the time. I had already been with my wife back then, but wonder how different our life would have been if I did it. I wonder if she would have joined too.

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I believe everything has its pros and cons, but I don't think it's as noble as it once was.

I don't know if you are fighting for the right cause at times.

Seems to me there are a lot of gray areas.

Although the intent is noble I would say.

Being a soldier by definition is one of the noblest professions. You pledge your life to protect your country. At least in theory.

Problem has always been the specific wars, and many many of them are utter horseshit or frauds like W‘s Iraq invasion, or Bibi‘s genocide in Gaza. These are extreme one the bullshitmeter but then you have all these wars that are extremely questionable as well.

 

[Stoic1]

I think war is a lot of fun. Killing people and stuff. It's noble to go out there and make the world smile.

I need you to go lay back down. Your fever is talking again.

 

[Trabaho]

I need you to go lay back down. Your fever is talking again.

Ok dad

 

[Trabaho]

I need you to go lay back down. Your fever is talking again.

I'm anti wars. That was sarcastic / bs. I don't like any wars.

 

[WINGNUT]

in theory fairytale land yes. in most instances through, no. especially anything modern. youre fighting for billionaires...end of story. that whole protecting our freedoms bullshit is retarded. the ONLY people taking our freedoms and lying and stealing and poisoning us is our own government. then sending you to fight wars to put more money in billionaires pockets. unless your defending yourself or helping the defenseless theres nothing noble about being a soldier.

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

I wouldn’t necessarily characterize military service as a profession unless someone is going to be a career military officer say.

It is something that some people do for various reasons with varying degrees of success and satisfaction.

I missed Nam buy a whisker, but my boy did two tours in Afghanistan, in airborne as a combat medic earning notoriety for his brave actions.

But it was never going to be his profession.

 

[BB in Crazy!!!!]

in theory fairytale land yes. in most instances through, no. especially anything modern. youre fighting for billionaires...end of story. that whole protecting our freedoms bullshit is retarded. the ONLY people taking our freedoms and lying and stealing and poisoning us is our own government. then sending you to fight wars to put more money in billionaires pockets. unless your defending yourself or helping the defenseless theres nothing noble about being a soldier.

I mean, historically we usually fought for kings or emperors or some sort of lord. So really not all that much has changed.

 

[BAM]

not inherently, it depends on what you do and why you do it.

Some people are shooting civilians for fun and joined for money. Others join because of a deep desire to serve the country and they trust leadership to use that sacrifice in a way that won't bring dishonour.

Some are heroes defending the innocent, others are fascists putting their boots on folks neck.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Can it be considered courageous or admired for one to serve his country? Yes I think so, especially during times of war.

Is it a noble profession? I'm not quite sure about that

 

[Jesus X]

It is very noble to serve your country. But not everyone serving is noble.

That is true I think a few serial killers have been in the military like dahmer and dennis rader off the top of my head.

 

[italiamusica]

I feel like it's noble, in the sense that they're sacrificing years of their lives and their own wants and desires to go and be a part of something bigger.

 

[Swamps]

Noble? Never thought of it neither way. As long as my retirement and VA checks hit every month, I'm ok with not being seen as Noble.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

When you say “the military” are you talking about the soldiers risking their lives or the men in fancy suits who see those very lives as nothing but a statistic?

The guys in fancy suits are defense contractors. They aren’t military.

 

[LEWIS540]

The guys in fancy suits are defense contractors. They aren’t military.

Yeah, that’s false.

 

[LEWIS540]

I feel like it's noble, in the sense that they're sacrificing years of their lives and their own wants and desires to go and be a part of something bigger.

So are mercenaries. They are just not so naive to what they’re actually doing.

 

[Cyrano200]

I wouldn’t necessarily characterize military service as a profession unless someone is going to be a career military officer say.

It is something that some people do for various reasons with varying degrees of success and satisfaction.

I missed Nam buy a whisker, but my boy did two tours in Afghanistan, in airborne as a combat medic earning notoriety for his brave actions.

But it was never going to be his profession.

I was not an officer but did my full 20 in the Navy and retired, as did quite a few of my current co-workers.
After active duty, I got a job with the DOD at a federal shipyard using the skills and knowledge I gained during my service. So I've worked for the Department of the Navy for almost 40 years (I enlisted in Nov of 1986), that is a profession. Yeah, I realize TS is referring to active duty, but my point remains. I, along with many other retirees, had one full-time profession in the military as enlisted men. And then that group, plus a boatload of other veterans, translated our military-based skills into a second profession post-active duty.

 

[Yoricks Wisdom]

I was not an officer but did my full 20 in the Navy and retired, as did quite a few of my current co-workers.
After active duty, I got a job with the DOD at a federal shipyard using the skills and knowledge I gained during my service. So I've worked for the Department of the Navy for almost 40 years (I enlisted in Nov of 1986), that is a profession. Yeah, I realize TS is referring to active duty, but my point remains. I, along with many other retirees, had one full-time profession in the military as enlisted men. And then that group, plus a boatload of other veterans, translated our military-based skills into a second profession post-active duty.

Excellent! Well done!

My son went into Law Enforcement (LE Family I'm afraid) after discharge. Now he's a Sgt, motor officer, SWAT Team Leader, etc.
His military experience has been invaluable IMO.

Cheers.

 

[Mongoosemk12]

Not that anybody gives a shit, but here's my two cents as a combat vet:

Serving your country/people/military is very noble imo. However, inherently, you are a servant of your people/government/whatever and will likely be asked to do things that you feel morally ambiguous about. That's part of that service though, and you need to be ok with that going in to the job. A lot of people never consider that.

From my perspective I'm doing the dirty work that is necessary to make my people/tribe/whatever better than any other one around me so that others don't have to. I strongly feel that stealing and killing are morally wrong. However, I'll happily do both if the betterment of my people requires it. Not everyone is going to feel that way, and that's fine.

Personally I feel national service should be a requirement, though I don't think that necessarily means military service. We should let people serve at places like the post office and doing infrastructure construction projects. Any kind of public service really. It's important that people feel a part of their country, their people, and like they have invested something in that.