Is Prates the hardest hitter at 170 outside of Anthony Johnson?

it's all that nicotine from his chain-smoking lol "Nicotine is unique in that it has both stimulant and depressant properties. It rapidly releases adrenaline, increasing heart rate and alertness, but can be followed by a short-lived calming sensation and a boost in focus." the alertness, focus, and calm of a sniper.
 
Rumble had way more raw power.

Prates' every ufc win so far has ended by vicious KO and that's 6 true KOes.
At WW Rumble has:
2 KO by head kick
2 KO by punches
2 TKO by punches

The only time he went to decision was against Dan Hardy in a UD victory.
Rumble also has 1 more TKO by punches in his pro debut.


At WW Prates has:
2 KO by punch
2 KO by punches
1 KO by elbow
1 KO by knee

He also has 2 TKO by punches in his early pro career.
He has 2 KOes before his LFA debut:
1 KO by punches and knee
1 KO by punch
Then at LFA he had 2 KOes:
1 KO by head kick and punches
1 KO by knee

Also, in DWCS he had 1 TKO by punch

Prates earned a Performance of the Night for all his 6 UFC KO victories.
He's achieved all thar in just 2 years with the promotion.
Carlos had 4 fights in 2024 and was victorious in all 4 of them by KO, earning 4 bonuses.


He's the first fighter to:
KO Leon Edwards
KO Geoff Neal
KO Li Jingliang

Carlos Prates was also a very good Kickboxer with about 4 knee to the body finishes, 2 flying knee KO and also multiple body shot KO wins.

To conclude:
Carlos Prates can viciously KO fighters by any shot he wants.
Rumble used to KO WW fighters by punches and head kicks.
Rumble absolutely has way more raw power as he has also competed at LHW and HW while Prates competed at FW, LW and WW.


Taking all of this into consideration, it's safe to say that Prates is the scarier KO artist due to having more tools with which he showed knockout power and also due to actually having a pretty good kickboxing background.
 
He's in the conversation, when I saw him swing and miss during the Garry fight, I already knew this dude is going to KO a lot of quality fighters. His punches are like whips, we still haven't really seen him blast a contender with his full power yet.

His left strait is his best weapon, but it's his left hook that will obliterate anyone in the WW division. I'd say within 24 months he'll have a place in everyone's top 3-5 after some more devastating KOs & knockdowns.

Tyron Woodley also deserves some recognition, if he was able to land his power at any point, you were seeing stars.
 
CatchtheseHands said:
Prates has the most KO power at the top of the division right now for sure but to be fair we haven't really seen Prates fight anyone whose chin isn't suspect or shot. Leon's chin has been sus ever since Nate had him on skates, Magny's chin was shot, and Neal's chin was very likely cracked after his war with Shavkat. Until we see him KO someone with a proven chin like Belal or JDM I don't think we can say he 100% has the touch of death yet.
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Since Prates likely isn’t getting the next title shot a fight against JDM would be fucking sick 👀 🤓
 
palasekan said:
it's all that nicotine from his chain-smoking lol "Nicotine is unique in that it has both stimulant and depressant properties. It rapidly releases adrenaline, increasing heart rate and alertness, but can be followed by a short-lived calming sensation and a boost in focus." the alertness, focus, and calm of a sniper.
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Personally, I love nicotine
 
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Paul Daley also hit pretty hard at 170.

I think he's more like Aspinall, he's accurate and place his shots well.
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I think what's so striking between carlos and Paul is the way the strikes are delivered. You can see Paul really winding up and throwing everything into his punches. His hands are moving fast as fuck. And then Carlos just kind of casually flicks his hands out there and if they land it's a done deal.
 
Prates is way ahead of just power. His timing and precision are different. He speeds up his punches mid air and hes so lenghty. A punch that was suposed to miss finds your chin and thats it.

all things considered, his style kinda reminds me of Anderson Silva. Hes got many moves and he knocks ppl out with all of them.
 
wufabufa said:
I think what's so striking between carlos and Paul is the way the strikes are delivered. You can see Paul really winding up and throwing everything into his punches. His hands are moving fast as fuck. And then Carlos just kind of casually flicks his hands out there and if they land it's a done deal.
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his body dynamics are wonderful here. even though he's going backwards, once his back foot plants it becomes a firm anchor to immediately release a punch. at the same time, his upper body angles back to provide just enough space for a compact, short left hook. his upper and lower arm are also angled perfectly to precisely hit that jaw.

if his timing was just off by a split second his counter hook might've just partially landed; off by more than a split second and he's completely out of position for that perfect counter hook. while going backwards, if he had thrown the counter left hook without a firmly planted foot he would not have generated enough power. if he had instead thrown a jab while walking back, not enough power. a straight punch while walking backwards likely would've been too long and slip past his opponent's face. if he hadn't angled back his upper torso, the counter hook would've likely missed. if his upper and lower left arm weren't angled just right while swinging he might have hit the ear or temple which may not have been the "button" for a knockout.

with his opponent rushing in carelessly, he performs all the right positional elements simultaneously with split second timing. bang, good night.
 
palasekan said:
his body dynamics are wonderful here. even though he's going backwards, once his back foot plants it becomes a firm anchor to immediately release a punch. at the same time, his upper body angles back to provide just enough space for a compact, short left hook. his upper and lower arm are also angled perfectly to precisely hit that jaw.

if his timing was just off by a split second his counter hook might've just partially landed; off by more than a split second and he's completely out of position for that perfect counter hook. while going backwards, if he had thrown the counter left hook without a firmly planted foot he would not have generated enough power. if he had instead thrown a jab while walking back, not enough power. a straight punch while walking backwards likely would've been too long and slip past his opponent's face. if he hadn't angled back his upper torso, the counter hook would've likely missed. if his upper and lower left arm weren't angled just right while swinging he might have hit the ear or temple which may not have been the "button" for a knockout.

with his opponent rushing in carelessly, he performs all the right positional elements simultaneously with split second timing. bang, good night.
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S-tier white belt post.
 
Leon messed up forgetting about the foot battle when he switched to orthodox. He let Prates telegraph the line up for the back hand.
 
MMASpeculator said:
Yea his lanky leverage + accurate placement makes it seem otherwordly. Leon was moving backwards while Prates overextended and still send him to the shadow realm. Very odd.

I hope they set up Prates vs Morales for a standup fight instead of letting Islam maul him though.
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Leon has a terrible chin, he rarely ever enters the pocket because of it
 
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