Is Petr Yan better than prime BJ technique wise?

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While Petr Yan is probably a better striker BJ is arguably the better grappler

We can calssify their skills ass follows:

BJ
Striking: 8
Wrestling: 7
BJJ: 9
AVG: 8


Yan
Striking: 9
Wrestling: 8
BJJ: 7
AVG: 8

This is pretty close TBH
 
I get BJ is a legend but go look at his record. He was definitely not a multi-generational guy like Jon Jones. He had one reasonably good decade.
 
All these guys are better. For now ju jitsu is taking a backseat. These dudes drill defense so much now it's not as effective. Most these high level guys aren't getting tapped unless they are already rocked or just tired. Bj isn't making yan tired ever.
 
Prime BJ with the world class bjj, the assassin's jab and snake like head movement was arguably the most naturally gifted fighter ever.

But Yan striking fundamentals, technically sound defense and ability to make in fight adjustments are crazy good.

Hard to quantify attributes as to who is the best overall (in terms of skillset aggregate) and their weaknesses have been exploited multiple times.
 
I think Yan is better than any version of BJ overall
His striking and offensive grappling are one of the best in the current BW division. BJ's defensive grappling and submission game was top notch but I think Yan's striking would emerge as the difference
 
Where did you pull those numbers out of? Show your work.
 
They are really different athletes that utilized different techniques, I love both of them

Prime BJ and Petr have excellent MMA striking, Petr has more variety, and I think has shown more intelligence mixing up his shots, not only the type of strike but also the target head/body/leg, he's just an extremelly tricky striker, absolutley evil in the clinch/close range striking exchanges, tricks you thinking he's clinching but he's setting up a strike. BJ was just plain jabs and hooks, but don't forget he got the best of the standup exchanges in 15 min of battling GSP, ultimatley lost but had many good moments in the standup exchanges with Machida, and against so many good fighters gave them fits trying to land anything - Florian, Diego, etc. BJ also showed in many fights a willingness to adopt a wrestling/BJJ based gameplan like against Ludwig, Jens 2, Gomi, Fitch, and found himself on top during scrambles/awkard moments against Hughes, GSP, and Machida. Watching Prime BJ and Yan scrambling would be quite a treat, it would be like Rd 1 of BJ vs Nick Diaz, very fun stuff. I wonder how Petr would do if BJ got on top of him and started trying to trap his arms, land giant elbows, etc.

Also, Petr Yan is very mentally tough, willing to fight in big wars, good stamina. BJ is more of a frontrunner and the only time he's ever come back in the second half to win a fight he was losing was the boring fight against Renzo. BJ tends to fade and lose in the wars he's been in like Jens 1, GSP 1, Hughes 2, Diaz, Fitch. The first round against GSP 2 he was doing fine then he got completely overwhelmed.
 
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Penn's BJJ should definitely be a 10 for MMA standards. He's also arguably a better wrestler, maybe your perception on that is skewed due to his performances against bigger guys at WW (some of who also happen to be ATG wrestlers in MMA).
 
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Penn's BJJ should definitely be a 10 for MMA standards. He's also arguably a better wrestler, maybe your perception on that is skewed due to his performances against bigger guys at WW (some of who also happens to be ATG wrestlers in MMA).
I never saw BJ having a wrestling performance as good as Yan x O'Malley
 
They are two different fighters with elite level skills. I appreciate them.
 
This is dumb, I hated BJ Penn in his prime, I love Yan (no homo) and BJ Penn is just a bigger fighter and has a way better resume. What is the purpose of comparing these 2?
 
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