Is Oleksandr Usyk in your top 10 ATG rankings?

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absolutely insanity for Usyk to be in anyone’s top 10 ….. quality of opposition at heavyweight is trash
 
TS didn't specify HW, and while I'll admit that most old-school historians rank Marciano in their top 10, or even top 5, that sentiment fading. Rocky was beloved for being undefeated and white. His only notable title fight wins were Walcott, Moore, and Charles--and two of those were geriatric (especially by 1950's standards). Heck even Charles was no spring chicken in fighting age--he was 32 with 96 pro fights.

I still contend that Usyk may have been a top 10 ATG if he had not waited so long to go up to HW, but he did, so he's not.
I don't think that sentiment is fading. I can show you recent Top 10 HW ATG lists made by modern historians that still have Marciano on them. It has nothing to do with Rocky being "beloved" or "white." He was the best of his era and the only heavyweight champ in history to retire on top and undefeated. Nearly 50-0 while maintaining a high KO rate.
 
No, probably top 30-50
Great fighter, but not enough wins and not enough great wins

His cruiser run was immense, but these lumps at heavy are not great and they are all from one country. The brits have never had so many top fighters and chisora still being top 10 years past his best says everything

I suspect Usyk has the talent to be top 10 ir so and doing this at 38 is amazing, but he just doesn't have enough wins on his resume and a zero isn't everything, especially when you fight once per year against the same guys
I think you would have a hard time finding 30 HWs better than him. But I guess it wasn’t specified. If you are talking about all weight classes then yes ur right but if we are talking just HWs then I have him in my top ten after looking at some past HWs. Easily the best since Lennox Lewis/holyfield/tyson for me for me
 
I think you would have a hard time finding 30 HWs better than him. But I guess it wasn’t specified. If you are talking about all weight classes then yes ur right but if we are talking just HWs then I have him in my top ten after looking at some past HWs. Easily the best since Lennox Lewis/holyfield/tyson for me for me

Oh at hw, I think he's probably top 10 for sure and agree fully with the rest of your post

Usyk is an awesome talent
 
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