Is MMA done growing in popularity?

Cowboy Kurt Angle

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I can’t help but wonder with UFC becoming the big corporate machine that this sport is done growing in popularity. I’m not saying this sport is dying but they don’t promote any fighters anymore Dana has lost his way they are more concerned with showing politicians in the crowd then they are with the quality of the card, it’s no secret that the popularity peaked with the McGregor Rousey era but with them wanting no one bigger then the brand itself, I can’t help but think the sport is done growing in popularity
 
I can’t help but wonder with UFC becoming the big corporate machine that this sport is done growing in popularity. I’m not saying this sport is dying but they don’t promote any fighters anymore Dana has lost his way they are more concerned with showing politicians in the crowd then they are with the quality of the card, it’s no secret that the popularity peaked with the McGregor Rousey era but with them wanting no one bigger then the brand itself, I can’t help but think the sport is done growing in popularity








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The tiktok and nina drama and Nelk boys era has definitely brought more retarded fans over as we are currently seeing with some of these aspinall gane takes.
 
Yes and no.

Yes in the fact that the premier MMA organization is still clearly setting record profits every year which if you look at the trend of endeavour/stock value and all the likes, it's a pretty clear picture. More money than ever before is coming into the sport.

No in the fact the UFC is now taking very different approaches to how they treat their stars. They are big into the reasoning that you can never let the fighters become bigger than the brand. No matter what way it's cut mega stars are by far the most time tested and proven way to bring in new fans to the sport.

The NHL's biggest team is the Toronto Maple Leafs and the league treats that team like absolute shit. Basically they have a league revenue sharing system which they take money that Toronto makes and distributes it to teams that literally can't even keep their heads above water. And on top of that - a lot of these shitty small market teams in the NHL are tax free states which significantly effects player income. Players make way more money and have way more incentive to sign with small market teams because of this. The league gives no shits about the Maple Leafs because it's a capped out market, there's just too little room for growth to make things any better for the Leafs. So it's better to treat them as an ATM machine for small market teams where there's more room for growth. Canadian teams in general are having a horrible time with this.

That's basically where the UFC is at. North America market is almost capped out as it stands, so it makes much more sense to appeal to foreign fighters and the fanbases they can bring, and they happen to be very easy to control type fighters too who'll never in a million years become bigger than the brand.
 
it still grows on some people, but it's meh, i'm over it sorta. too much yappin on goats and legacies that make it cheesy for me. I just wanna see fights.
 
Yes and no.

Yes in the fact that the premier MMA organization is still clearly setting record profits every year which if you look at the trend of endeavour/stock value and all the likes, it's a pretty clear picture. More money than ever before is coming into the sport.

No in the fact the UFC is now taking very different approaches to how they treat their stars. They are big into the reasoning that you can never let the fighters become bigger than the brand. No matter what way it's cut mega stars are by far the most time tested and proven way to bring in new fans to the sport.

The NHL's biggest team is the Toronto Maple Leafs and the league treats that team like absolute shit. Basically they have a league revenue sharing system which they take money that Toronto makes and distributes it to teams that literally can't even keep their heads above water. And on top of that - a lot of these shitty small market teams in the NHL are tax free states which significantly effects player income. Players make way more money and have way more incentive to sign with small market teams because of this. The league gives no shits about the Maple Leafs because it's a capped out market, there's just too little room for growth to make things any better for the Leafs. So it's better to treat them as an ATM machine for small market teams where there's more room for growth. Canadian teams in general are having a horrible time with this.

That's basically where the UFC is at. North America market is almost capped out as it stands, so it makes much more sense to appeal to foreign fighters and the fanbases they can bring, and they happen to be very easy to control type fighters too who'll never in a million years become bigger than the brand.
But the WPG JETS are getting the cup this year!
 
it sure as hell isn't done DECLINING in popularity.

.. at first MMA was borderline illegal and fake wrasslin was on top. Then suddenly overnight MMA is all over cable TV and all these wrasslin fans are like "wait , what, we can watch REAL fighting?" They made the swap from wrasslin to MMA for an initial large influx of MMA viewers. Eventually the luster of this new breakthrough sport wore off.
 
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MMA I would say no, the UFC might be. Their business model isn't designed to keep the fans they had even a decade ago when it comes to in person events.
 
Why would any new talent, with big personalities and good skills, want to come to an organization that pays their fighters like shit? Dana and Co are the reason no one cares anymore, because they pay their fighters dogshit and no legit fighters wants to fight in the "premier MMA organization" while still having to work a full time job and live on food stamps.

If the UFC weren't greedy assholes (anyone who has multi millions of dollars and still takes the lion's share while fighters can't afford retirement is a piece of shit human being) and actually paid fighters what they're worth, then there would be a lot of quality talent and likeable people that would come fight help it grow again. Personalities that would make the random person start to tune in more.
 
Yup, the character that made it so enticing is gone. You could replace it with AI fighters and never put on an event at all and it would seem the same. I’m happy to have been a fan when it wasn’t sterilized and fighters were there for a reason beyond athletic fame.

As with any counter-culture gone mainstream, what made it so special becomes bastardized when commercialism shows up.
 
People don't mention enough how many super casual fans dropped after the Ronda era ended also. She was an insane draw.

I don't think you will ever get a more perfect combo than Ronda and Conor on the rise in 2014/2015. Then you got 2016 with Ronda's last fight, Brock returning, and Conor having 3 massive PPV's, I think it peaked in 2016 for popularity. It might not sound right saying it peaked in 2016 when the peak was 2018 Conor vs Khabib ppv buys number but that was more of an anomaly for that year because mostly everything else bombed DC wasn't drawing, Woodley was doing WMMA numbers, flyweights almost got canned. Speaking of 2018, I wouldn't be shocked if a lot of Fox era fans dipped out after that ended that year, ESPN has sucked.

I think overall UFC's lack of boom since those days is those 1000 cuts scenario because you got wrestling heavy fights really getting more frequent now, people don't want to spend money on fights when you can get that type of card the other day, push the Apex heavy and not moving on from it which is causing fans to not get on the hype of fighters coming up, and the new generation of fighters are mostly failing when they get the chance to beat the old guard. Lightweight is bad for it.

Wouldn't say there's a one thing that's stopping it's growth. I think they got pretty lucky covid era got eyes on anything still going and UFC got back pretty quick and got new eyes in.
 
Asakura vs Pantoja had more in attendance than Conor Mcgregor vs Diaz 2 in the same Arena, although the gate revenue were a 2million difference, 18k attended a 125lb title fight.
 
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