Is (Karate) wrestling's kryptonite?

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  1. maxi diablo

    maxi diablo Black Belt

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    Just saying if you have decent takedown defence, you can have your way with a wrestler.
     
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    I think it does help because karate based fighters tend to fight at a distance making it difficult to shoot for double legs.
     
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  3. thedevious

    thedevious Everyone Is On PEDs Except Me

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    Mixed martial arts
     
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    hendricks being a 170 pounder probably was huge too
     
  5. mmafan559

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    Really, really, really fucking good karate.
     
  6. Kinku

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    Helps if you have longer range
     
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    Needs to be better than decent imo Stuffing Hendricks takedowns is no easy feat
     
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    dc007 mr. white belt

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    Well Machida got outstruck by Weidman so I guess it's case by case.
     
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    It's all about the footwork, actually, combined with timing
    Karate puts a lot of emphasis on both things so... But it's not something that is exclusive of karate.
     
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    Hendricks is just too predictable. feint-jab-left hook over and over. No head movement. Just an all around bad gameplan
     
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    Sherdog takes one fight and makes sweeping generalizations. Therefore, you fit in.

    Wonderboy is a fucking badass...that's the story.
     
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    kuromusha LONZO LOOMS 2019

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    Good distance, wide stance, and circular movements kill wrestlers
     
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    striking combined with tdd is the grapplers kryptonite.
     
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    LukeSkyRutten Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Not saying karate but obviously the strong TDD bit. Wrestlers have wrestled their whole lives. They aren't strong in the stand-up department. What gives the illusion of great stand-up is their TD threat. Take Weidman for instance. Looked great on the feet versus Anderson due to his TD threat but then he was awful on the feet against Maia and Rockhold when the TD threat was removed.

    Thompson has been striking his whole life pretty much. It will take an equally experienced striker to threaten him, or a wrestler who can actually impose his grappling weapons.
     
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    a lot of it has to to with 95% of mma fighters training the same type of things, and wonderboy has a very unique uncommon style for mma. he also has fantastic timing. just like people had trouble with machida, they will also with wonderboy until they figure out his style a bit more. but that was a fantastic performance.
     
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    Weidman is great at cutting off the cage. He's one of the better boxers in the ufc
     
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    It's about the person but the style.
     
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    Agreed. There was a thread the other day about underrated strikers in the UFC and my first response was the Chris. Great timing and footwork and he's so effective even though he looks so slow. It's crazy.
     
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    Wonderboy trains wrestling too...
     
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    History says no. Wrestling beats karate. But with good tdd and phenominal movement, the kickboxers can do very well. Holly holm was a good example, and thompson certainly came out expecting to move alot. Pettis should be learning from these guys. Most strikers historically have tried to catch wrestlers coming in... Far better to move out and try to catch them off balance. Might be a new era.
     

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