Is Jon's blatant ducking of Tom the most cowardly ducking in the history of combat sports?

[Ginja_Ninja]

No, Jones is 37 yo and has accomplished everything possible in the sport. Beating Aspinall doesn’t add much to his legacy.

GSP, on the other hand, was 32 yo, and walked away from the entire sport instead of fighting an aging Anderson Silva for double champ status.

What are you talking about?

Jones did not move up and fight an aging Francis, DC, Stipe for double champ status?
He moved up years later to take on one of the easiest champs in a decade. Exact same as GSP.
The only things he accomplished that GSP has not is being disqualified from a fight, having his titles stripped multiple times and having a single title defense of the second belt against a fighter who had zero current wins in the division.

You can say that GSP ducked Whittaker or even the Hendricks rematch but if he did so he did it quickly, respectfully and honestly. Both times dropping the title within a month to let the division move on.

 

[markg171]

Nothing is topping DC/Jones 3 and it's not even close.

Particularly love the cherry on top that DC pettily vacated the title the night before he was being stripped so that history couldn't officially record him as being stripped for refusing to defend against Jones. Says it all really.

 

[VAfan]

Jones simply retiring to avoid the fight would be much better than what is happening right now though.

my honest opinion is that it's not even a duck with jones, or not completely. i think he just likes trolling the world and is having all sorts of fun fucking with everyone right now. he's a twisted dude, you can just see it. at the bottom of it all there's probably also a duck, but that isn't the main thing. i think he's just messing with everybody, getting off on how much it's pissing everyone off.

 

[mkess101]

my honest opinion is that it's not even a duck with jones, or not completely. i think he just likes trolling the world and is having all sorts of fun fucking with everyone right now. he's a twisted dude, you can just see it. at the bottom of it all there's probably also a duck, but that isn't the main thing. i think he's just messing with everybody, getting off on how much it's pissing everyone off.

You're partly right. He does love the trolling. But he also knows when he gets KO'd that all ends. So he will drag this out as long as possible until he either runs away and retires or takes the cash and his likely loss.

 

[Poirierfan]

I actually follow boxing, and don’t rely on clickbait Facebook articles

I remember watching Mike Tyson on Tuesday night fights back when he was 10-0. You're not preaching to a newbie (and I don't do Facebook). Still, you could have been watching boxing all your life and that don't automatically make you right, it proves nothing.

 

[nonoob]

Nah he's obviously been given grace to drag it out.

"Grace"...



VAfan said: my honest opinion is that it's not even a duck with jones, or not completely. i think he just likes trolling the world and is having all sorts of fun fucking with everyone right now. he's a twisted dude, you can just see it. at the bottom of it all there's probably also a duck, but that isn't the main thing. i think he's just messing with everybody, getting off on how much it's pissing everyone off.





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[r-harper-1]

Sure thing buddy. Jones will never be remembered as the real HW champion.

Well I do agree with that

 

[r-harper-1]

The difference is that GSP didn't hold onto the belt and troll for 8 months.

Had Jon Jones retired right away after the Stipe fight, he wouldn't have ruined his legacy. But now his trolling and ducking has gone on for too long.

Shouldn’t the promotion get the blame …they are the one stringing Aspinall along and allowing jones to mess around

 

[Alpha_T83]

Shouldn’t the promotion get the blame …they are the one stringing Aspinall along and allowing jones to mess around

No, Jon Jones could have done the honorable thing and retired, rather than be a scumbag, if he does in fact duck Tom Aspinall.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

one of the most blatant for sure. GDR with cyborg was probably the worst though. literally retired just to get away.

honorable mention goes to tito with chuck.

I don't blame GDR, Cyborg has raided herself to such and advantage that it's no longer a ethical play field

 

[BowserJr]

I hemember Barnett ducking Fedor multiple times back in the days. I hemember when Floyd ducked Manny for years until he saw Manny get flatlined by Juan Ma.

Is Jon's blatant ducking of Tom worse?

Which ducking was worse?

Barnett ducked Fedor?

Floyd Pacman is bad but I think this one is worse

 

[HHJ]

There is worse shit in boxing, but theres also more ways to duck there than in the UFC.

But of course people do not like the truth being witheld like this with nothing being done about it, so people are more angry about this than they would be with other similar situaions.

Riddick Bowe ducking Lennox was shitty but at least it was over fast, and everything was out in the open.

 

[HHJ]

Barnett ducked Fedor?

No, he did not. They were friends and neither wanted to fight each other.

 

[HHJ]

I don't blame GDR

If she didnt want to fight Cyborg, she shouldnt have gone to 145.

I mean, what did she think was gonna happen? I suppose she thought she'd get to keep the title like they are allowing Jon to do now.

 

[fzoid4454]

That doesn’t explain away manny refusing to piss or test under a sanctioning body he wasn’t in control of

If memory serves, Manny was willing to piss test. Mayweather wanted the more stringent/precise blood draws, and Manny doesn't like needles.

 

[John makfresshi]

If memory serves, Manny was willing to piss test. Mayweather wanted the more stringent/precise blood draws, and Manny doesn't like needles.

Only a drug cheat would be afraid of drug test

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Micheal Bisping vs the whole 185 division was real bad. Dan Henderson vs Bisping 2 should've never happened.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

If she didnt want to fight Cyborg, she shouldnt have gone to 145.

I mean, what did she think was gonna happen? I suppose she thought she'd get to keep the title like they are allowing Jon to do now.

It's a moral thing, Cyborg is 1 of the worst drug cheats in recent memory. She looked like a Chinese swimmer from the 90d

 

[djason1988]

No, Jones is 37 yo and has accomplished everything possible in the sport. Beating Aspinall doesn’t add much to his legacy.

GSP, on the other hand, was 32 yo, and walked away from the entire sport instead of fighting an aging Anderson Silva for double champ status.

Your first paragraph would have merit if Jones wasn't holding the belt hostage. If you're the champ, you HAVE to fight.

And wtf about GSP? Not moving up a weight class to challenge another all time great is now ducking? This was before Conor and "double champ" even being a thing. GSP fight every single person in front of him. He cleaned out his weight class twice over.

 

[HHJ]

It's a moral thing

As I said, if you wont fight Cyborg, dont go to the division that was created solely for her.

I have no love for Cyborg, but what GDR did was nearly commit career suicide. Her talent level and the lack of it elswhere is the only thing that saved it.