is john jones technically undefeated, now that 12-6 elbows are legal???

[KungFuFoo]

does the ufc changing the rules have anything to do with erasing jon jones only loss... a 12-6 elbow strike to matt hamil.

i saw JBJ on twitter asking dana for his loss to be overturned. do you think it will happen or is it like law where whatever statute stood at the time of the incident is what counts?

discuss.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

No， because both fighters went in with the understanding that 12-6 is illegal, so there is no reason to expect to be hit by one.

Would be like reversing decisions that involved groin shots or strikes to the back of the head from the original UFC

 

[HHJ]

Of course not.

Did they take all of TRT Vitor's wins away? No. Why? Cos it was legal when he was on that shit.

Jones knew the rules.

It was illegal for him to do those elbows and he got disqualified.

NOW its legal for him to do it.

 

[Domitian]

UFC didn't change the rules

The Association of Boxing Commissions and Combative Sports (ABC) did

I don't really care why they did it just glad that they did. The rule was bullshit.

 

[HatKick]

Did everyone say King Green's name wrong when they called him Bobby Green? No because that was his name then.

 

[oski]

 

[Poirierfan]

Yes, it should be overturned. Also overturn Jon's wins to losses every time he tested positive.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Of course not.

Did they take all of TRT Vitor's wins away? No. Why? Cos it was legal when he was on that shit.

Jones knew the rules.

It was illegal for him to do those elbows and he got disqualified.

NOW its legal for him to do it.

It would be somethin if Stipe finishes him with 12-6 elbows

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Yes, that should be overturned. Also overturn all Jon's wins when he tested positive.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

Dana openly admits to having tried to get that loss overturned for years. Testament to what a scumbag he is.

 

[AmonTobin]

No, because both fighters went in with the understanding that 12-6 is illegal, so there is no reason to expect to be hit by one.

 

[Thawing Mammoth]

NO, technically what happened happened.

 

[AmonTobin]

Jones is technically still a cheater. If they decided to allow any chemical into an athlete's body, in the year 2035, will they overturn all the NC's out there?

 

[g*r*b]

It would be somethin if Stipe finishes him with 12-6 elbows

He does have a storm-of-elbows finish on his record, against Shane del Rosario. It was NASTY. If he did that against Jones with the extra fuckyou of being 12 to 6...ooooooooh.

 

[Trabaho]

If stomps ever become legal than Wes Sims beat Mir by KO ?

 

[BangBang]

No. You fight according to the rules at the time. Otherwise everyone who had lost because of a rule change that became legal would have to have their results overturned as well.

Totally different if a fighter cheated, then retrospective amendment of the result would be appropriate.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

Until hammill hears of this, the L must remain

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

He does have a storm-of-elbows finish on his record, against Shane del Rosario. It was NASTY. If he did that against Jones with the extra fuckyou of being 12 to 6...ooooooooh.

Fuck yea

 

[KungFuFoo]

He does have a storm-of-elbows finish on his record, against Shane del Rosario. It was NASTY. If he did that against Jones with the extra fuckyou of being 12 to 6...ooooooooh.

lol talkin like stipe wins. cute. no disrespect intended.

 

[djacobox372]

If we made rule changes retroactive than Jones would need to be disqualified for half of his fights for extending his fighters towards his opponent repeatedly.

Rule #9 of the unified rules:
"Fingers outstretched toward an opponent’s face/eyes: In the standing position, a fighter
that moves their arm(s) toward their opponent with an open hand, fingers pointing at the
opponent’s face/eyes, will be a foul. Referees are to prevent this dangerous behavior by
communicating clearly to fighters. Fighters are directed to close their fists or point their fingers
straight up in the air when reaching toward their opponent."