1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

Is it possible to be demoted? (Kang spoiler)

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Deloitte, Apr 29, 2008.

  1. Deloitte Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2007
    Messages:
    866
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is it possible to be demoted if you lose a BJJ or MMA match in such a humialiating fashion for your belt level? I'm not bashing Kang at all, but he literally screamed out TRIANGLE ME in that fight. Could he be demoted to a blue belt?

    In a similar situation, one of my teammates crossed his legs in a recent tournament (He's a brown belt) and he got submitted via ankle lock. Will he get demoted for such a rookie mistake?
     
  2. Hamburger Legs Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    284
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Studio City, CA
  3. crxer Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    1,759
    Likes Received:
    110
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    dennis CANg
     
  4. Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2004
    Messages:
    31,695
    Likes Received:
    1,971
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Considering your teammate must have taken the back of a brown belt to get there ... my answer is no. He's obviously a skilled brown belt. Everybody makes mistakes occasionally, even black belts.
     
  5. Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    24,039
    Likes Received:
    5,599
    Absolutly not. Losing is no reason to demote someone, no matter how or who they loose too. That individual got to where they were through skill and knowlage in the art. To take away that symbol of skill (the belt) based on one, two or hell even 10 bad performances is a slap in the face.

    Loosing bad to someone you should beat is humiliating enough, a demotion is rubbing salty alchohol in the wound.

    And after reading your post I have to ask: Have you ever competed?
     
  6. Balto Silver Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2005
    Messages:
    12,962
    Likes Received:
    51
    Demotion is not necessary.

    At most tournaments I have been to, the losing brown belt will perform ritual suicide on the mat as it is the only way for him to regain his lost honor.

    His brown belt will then be stripped from his body and awarded to the winner of the purple belt division. Thus the cycle can begin again next tournament.
     
  7. J Storm** Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2006
    Messages:
    11,993
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Land of 1000 Nosejobs
    i wouldnt even think you'd get demoted for losing in a bjj match, much less an MMA match.
     
  8. ich1ban Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2006
    Messages:
    1,563
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    アメリカ
    I have never heard of demoting in any martial arts..

    Does that really happen? Lol
     
  9. birdbones Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    0
    I demoted myself the other day after a terrible night in class where I got tapped by EVERYONE. of course i'm only a 1 stripe(now no stripe)white belt.
     
  10. Valiss __________

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Messages:
    20,921
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Taco Bell
    That's true. I saw that recently at a local MMA match. It was brutal.
     
  11. Sherdog_Mutt Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2004
    Messages:
    2,446
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is why I want to stay at purple belt for as long as possible!
     
  12. StudentLoan Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2006
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Toronto
    So that's what happened to the brown belt in our gym, the black belts told me he left the country.
     
  13. TheLionTamer Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2005
    Messages:
    2,961
    Likes Received:
    15
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    i heard of a guy that was a blue belt then decided to switch schools to the gracie academy in torrance where his belt was not honored by rorian.
     
  14. he had someone from a gym who was a purple, but didn't train for a very long time, so when he came back he demoted himself to blue till he unrusted and regained purple level
     
  15. Cardio King Blue Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2007
    Messages:
    848
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    The funniest post I have ever read.
     
  16. Yojimbo Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    3,448
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    The PFJ
    Or "went to live with a nice family on a farm" :)
     
  17. Zankou Bringing peace and love Staff Member Senior Moderator

    Joined:
    May 24, 2004
    Messages:
    31,695
    Likes Received:
    1,971
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Jiu jitsu is a zero sum game. You can't all improve. You have to seize knowledge and belts from others.

    Tournaments are the best place to take belts.
     
  18. TheHighlander Green Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2003
    Messages:
    1,213
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've seen a few cases where a student from another school demoted himself while training with us. In another case my instructor "promoted" a student to a rank he had been given elsewhere (but wasn't up to our standards) although he had never demoted himself. I know of one instance where a black belt demoted one of his students and another case where a senior (but still white belt) student ripped a blue belt off another student after a particularly bad roll and returned it to the instructor.
     
  19. Thrawn33 JUST BLEED Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2007
    Messages:
    24,039
    Likes Received:
    5,599
    Wow, such disrespect should get you killed by the instructor. Especially if he were the one to promote said blue belt. Thats basically saying "why the hell did you promote this guy?" and challenging the coach/sensei/instructor's judgement.

    Self demotions I'm not really counting.
     
  20. Sherdog_Mutt Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2004
    Messages:
    2,446
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's like that game "Hungry Hungry Hippos". There's only so many marbles to go around!
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.