Is it more efficient to fight with your strong arm forward in street fights, for self defence?...

[TankAbbott4Eva]

I’ll bite- why wouldn’t you use the punch that controls distance, interrupts the other guys timing, and sets up your bigger shots?

Why would you want to change the way youve spent hundreds/thousands of hours fighting on the fly when the stakes are the highest?

 

[teamventure09]

... Especially for people that happen to have their strong leg and strong arm on opposite sides.​

I know that in boxing matches you need to keep your weak hand forward, but in a street fight you need speed and fast KOs/Knockdowns. You won't really jab, especially if there are more than one attacker. And, of course, attackers on the streets are easier to KO or drop, so you don't really need to open their defence with Jabs and such. If there are more than one, you won't even have the time to play that game. So, the check hook or Mike Tyson's front hook is the fastest weapon that you can use that can drop the attacker.

Also, for example, in my case, if I put my weak arm forward, my weak leg will be in the back, so it will be another disadvantage because I can't move well at all with my weak leg in the back.

Basically, people that have the strong arm and the strong leg on opposite sides, are even more forced to use the strong arm forward so they could have the strong leg in the back, which will enable them to move better.

Another thing that I observed; it's also much easier to parry and defend when you have the strong arm forward.

I'm with you on the part about not really jabbing in a bar/street fight. In working the door recently at a bar I knocked out a couple guys coming at me. We watched the survalence footage and I didn't throw a single jab, it was all right power hand. In or right outside a bar it's already close range and the whole fight is like the last 30 seconds of a round, no time for a feeling out proces. However, I remember using a 1,2 combo on the first guy I faced at the bar because there was more space out in the parking lot.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

hello my #StrikingForumFriend . I was just wanting to giving my cents on this subject matter as maybe I was can help u fam.

many people think u must always place 1 foot forward 1 foot back like boxer or muay thai person, but in mean streets I feel horse stance was most effective as it allow for optimal generation of power with open palm strike. Using strong as rear was not allow for proper follow through, while in front maybe was difficult for windup. here is video of quite solid fundamentals:



lmk if this was been help broski, and remember street rule creed "No stepping, 2 for flinching, and clubbing is for hoes "


#StayHard

 

[Cole train]

Best advice is going to work in security to see how real world violence actually plays out if goal is to learn how to handle yourself in real world

Theres a reason why geoff thompson said in his book that even if he was trained martial artist, other experienced bouncers who did not train were better than him at the start of his door career

 

[StopDucking]

Best advice is going to work in security to see how real world violence actually plays out if goal is to learn how to habdle yourself in real world

Theres a reason why geoff thompson said in his book that even if he was trained martial artist, other experienced bouncers who did not train were better than him at the start of his door career

Damn, Cole Train. It's been a while.

Were you exempt from the draft because you're always drunk?

 

[Cole train]

Damn, Cole Train. It's been a while.

Were you exempt from the draft because you're always drunk?

I was exempt because im retarded and danger to society

 

[StopDucking]

I was exempt because im retarded and danger to society

Sounds like all the more reason to send you to the front line?

 

[DoctorTaco]

I was exempt because im retarded and danger to society

Somewhere out there a marine recruiter just popped a chubby

 

[Cole train]

Somewhere out there a marine recruiter just popped a chubby

"Do you want to see the world?"

"Is your criminal record stopping you from getting ahead in life?"

"Do you want all you can eat crayons?"

Then join the marine corps infantry!

 

[Vergilius]

I'm right handed but my left jab is by far my best punch. It gives me control of the situation, much more so against untrained people who are stumbling around windmilling. If you need to go for a quick knockout, the ol' 1-2 is just as good and quick as a check hook and it can be done against opponents standing still as well as opponents coming forward.

But hey, if you know what you are doing, by all means try something unorthodox.

 

[teamventure09]

I'm right handed but my left jab is by far my best punch. It gives me control of the situation, much more so against untrained people who are stumbling around windmilling. If you need to go for a quicke knockout, the ol' 1-2 is just as good and quick as a check hook and it can be done against opponents standing still as well as opponents coming forward.

But hey, if you know what you are doing, by all means try something unorthodox.

Nothing like the good ol 1-2

 

[SummerStriker]

Fighters in gym bum rush constantly. MMA fighters throw flurries and then bear hug. Karate guys lunge across the floor with back fists. Muay Thai guys run at you trying to clinch if you hit them. Rushing is regular behavior. It takes a lot of time and skill to temper that. And people still do it in the UFC like all the time.

The most important thing for street fighting is having powerful strikes with both hands and standup grappling so you stay on your feet.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I'm a right handed southpaw, so I suppose I do use my strong arm as my lead. But that doesn't really have much to do with self-defense.

I'd just use which ever stance you're comfy in. If anything your defense will be worse if you just arbitrarily switch your stance to have your power hand in front. You want to avoid flurries, so it seems counter-intuitive to go to your weaker stance.

 

[pugilistico]

Lol TS. "I've never been to a gym"

"That's not how it works."

If you never been a gym, you have no business telling trained martial artists "how things work."

 

[SandisLL]

It depends also from leg ( yes ) and so called distribution between hands in ability to deliver impact.
It might be 30/70 etc or 45/55.

And IF guy might deliver approx the same impact with both hands
regardless from hand he is using ....then he might choice to use for boxing as front hand hand where he does have more speed and precision. Especially important it is in am boxing cos their judges more likely will notice long range work done, like jabs etc rather than close range power punches ( ofc if opponent will not get down etc after these ).

 

[Tayski]

Best advice is going to work in security to see how real world violence actually plays out if goal is to learn how to handle yourself in real world

Theres a reason why geoff thompson said in his book that even if he was trained martial artist, other experienced bouncers who did not train were better than him at the start of his door career

He also said that lifting weights is more valuable to the streets and working the door than martial arts. I get his argument as to why, but I'd pick the pro MMA fighter over the weight lifter any day of the week for a street fight.

 

[Pizza Werewolf]

Depends......

 

[SummerStriker]

He also said that lifting weights is more valuable to the streets and working the door than martial arts. I get his argument as to why, but I'd pick the pro MMA fighter over the weight lifter any day of the week for a street fight.

I think the point is that over like 2 years, 200 hours of MMA and 800 hours of weight training will smoke 800 hours of MMA and 200 hours of weight lifting.

 

[shunyata]

I think the point is that over like 2 years, 200 hours of MMA and 800 hours of weight training will smoke 800 hours of MMA and 200 hours of weight lifting.

Eh, only if the bloke is scrawny and the s&c brought him up two weight classes.

If the guy is a good size already more time sparring / rolling / and working with a good coach on the pads will yield much better results.

 

[biscuitsbrah]

Best advice is going to work in security to see how real world violence actually plays out if goal is to learn how to handle yourself in real world

Theres a reason why geoff thompson said in his book that even if he was trained martial artist, other experienced bouncers who did not train were better than him at the start of his door career

There’s this one ex pro I know who was just savage with his street fighting tactics. Was a really good cage fighter but in the street he was unreal. Such a quick thinking dude in these situations, you could tell how much experience he had in “teh streets”. In an everyday scenario I’d pick him and masvidal against many other guys who would whoop their ass in a cage.

Street fighting IQ is a real skill. Albeit a degenerate one lmao