Is It Cool To Say No?

Nothing wrong with not wanting to roll with him. I would just tell him, you want to find someone closer to your size.
 
I was just like that big clumsey guy. My problem was that I was just trying to muscle everybody. Once I clamp down on a simple side headlock or an arm triangle choke, I used to squeeze with everything I have. Sometimes the blue belts would tap and get mad. The Purple belts would remain calm and find a way out of it.

I never felt bad for doing that because when they have you in an Armbar they usually pull down with everything they have.

I recently went back to practice and have completely stopped using my power. I am getting manhandled by whitebelts that I used to tap with little effort. I am just taking this as a learning experience.

By muscling guys I have made some enemies in the school. Some of those guys I know can whup my ass but I did not go there to make friends.
 
-they pull down with everything they have huh? so you're trying to tell me when you were put in armbars your partners would pull down with everything they had? oh ok. if you say so...

hmm well this thread was a little more related to the fact that the point of this guys elbow and him grinding it into my face are dirty and very disrespectful and maybe, i'm not sure illegal at my school. but, luckily i did manage to sweep him, even though he was bigger, stronger and supposedly more advanced than me. and when i swept him he was too much of a pussy to even allow me to try and finish. i will find out tomorrow what the rules are so we'll know for sure. all i know is that if you are 'just like the big klumsey guy' you are missing a big essential part of bjj my friend and will probably continue your no friends streak thus not having too many partners to roll with.
 
GracieStudent said:
-they pull down with everything they have huh? so you're trying to tell me when you were put in armbars your partners would pull down with everything they had? oh ok. if you say so...

hmm well this thread was a little more related to the fact that the point of this guys elbow and him grinding it into my face are dirty and very disrespectful and maybe, i'm not sure illegal at my school. but, luckily i did manage to sweep him, even though he was bigger, stronger and supposedly more advanced than me. and when i swept him he was too much of a pussy to even allow me to try and finish. i will find out tomorrow what the rules are so we'll know for sure. all i know is that if you are 'just like the big klumsey guy' you are missing a big essential part of bjj my friend and will probably continue your no friends streak thus not having too many partners to roll with.
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Yes, there are a couple guys (almost all whitebelts) that when they go for an armbar they crank it. I have had to stop at the 7-11 on my way home to buy Ice for my arm. I know who these guys are and I always avoud rolling with them.

I know that when a good blue belt or higher does it. They do it in a way that they know won't snap my arm. Sometimes they even tell me that I am not going to get out of it and that they are applying minimal pressure, and let go.
 
you're not getting it bro. they are blue/purple belts. they are MUCH more experienced. do the math. maybe they have to pull a little harder cause your resisting a 'clean' move in which your suppose to tap. what they're trying to say to you is "hey look bro u better tap now because i got u locked in a clean armbar and could break your arm like a twig but i won't because we are all here to learn the techniques and i'm your partner and this ain't a tournament". you feel me? so if you wanna step your game up your gonna have to USE YOUR HEAD.
 
GracieStudent said:
-they pull down with everything they have huh? so you're trying to tell me when you were put in armbars your partners would pull down with everything they had? oh ok. if you say so...

hmm well this thread was a little more related to the fact that the point of this guys elbow and him grinding it into my face are dirty and very disrespectful and maybe, i'm not sure illegal at my school. but, luckily i did manage to sweep him, even though he was bigger, stronger and supposedly more advanced than me. and when i swept him he was too much of a pussy to even allow me to try and finish. i will find out tomorrow what the rules are so we'll know for sure. all i know is that if you are 'just like the big klumsey guy' you are missing a big essential part of bjj my friend and will probably continue your no friends streak thus not having too many partners to roll with.
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First of all, an elbow in the face is downright intentional. It goes beyond dirty. Dirty to me is something legel but taken to an extreme. Like arching your back and pulling extra hard on an armbar during class.

I recently got stiches removed and a crown on a broken tooth from an acciddent with the assistant instructor. At first I thought it was intentional but after talking with him and even having dinner with him and the Master. I realized that it was an accident. He had me mounted. I successfully tried to Upa-roll him and during the roll his elbow busted my mouth open.

Before I trained at this school (that will remain anaoymous). I went to Yamasaki Academy in Rockville, Md. The difference between students is night and day. There almost everybody was like a family member. The school I go to now is like a Thug academy. So, I don't feel bad when I muscle guys here.
 
El Tiburon said:
Yes, there are a couple guys (almost all whitebelts) that when they go for an armbar they crank it. I have had to stop at the 7-11 on my way home to buy Ice for my arm. I know who these guys are and I always avoud rolling with them.

I know that when a good blue belt or higher does it. They do it in a way that they know won't snap my arm. Sometimes they even tell me that I am not going to get out of it and that they are applying minimal pressure, and let go.
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It's true. You can't please everyone. I'm a pretty big guy (6'4) and I can tell you I've had many smaller guys go 100% even though we were somewhat drill/rolling and I was clearly relaxed and composed. It's almost as if they make it a challenge to try and take the big man down using whatever means (strength, or dirty moves) simply because I'm bigger than them. It can be confusing at times restraining one's strength especially when your partner is using 100% of theirs (am I to use 30%, 100%?).

In the end, I just keep a cool head a take it as a learning experience.
 
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