Is gsp vs Hendricks still the most controversial fight of all time ?

[glavinator]

Say Hi from Alberta, Canada.

Every single media outlet gave the fight to Hendricks, did they want to bury poor Georges?

Dana has said plenty of times he disagreed with a judges decision, was somebady leaving then?

He saw Hendricks winning as 90% of people who watched the fight, and 100% outside of Canada. Its what it is

Say Hi from Alberta, Canada.

Every single media outlet gave the fight to Hendricks, did they want to bury poor Georges?

Dana has said plenty of times he disagreed with a judges decision, was somebady leaving then?

He saw Hendricks winning as 90% of people who watched the fight, and 100% outside of Canada. Its what it is

Gsp won, clearly on the 10 point system.

So explain GSP's roid belly then Dr Scientist.

That was HGH gut he was accused of having. If he was using PED he sure as shit wasn't wasting his time on generic anabolic that are easy to test for and cheap as fuck.

Also , every pic someone has of him with said gut is during scenes where he is exerting himself , hence heavy breathing and/or tightening of the core, pushing it out. When someone has paluboism , or abdominal distension their mid section looks like a fuckin barrel, all the time. It grows the gut tissue and abdominal muscles an extraordinary amount pushing it out dramatically. You can't just turn that on and off, it changes your body on a structural level.

Furthermore, Its a body builder thing. GsP was never a bodybuilder and never had a bodybuilder physique. He spent half his career doing gymnastics ffs. Especially around the time most of the pics people show. That one of himwith his hands on his hips, slouched in the cage, after exerting himself. And also that one of him on stilts or some shit, where he's on a track I think. Absolute horse shit examples.

 

[Dan Torrance]

What you saw was an injured Silva submit a guy who was juiced to the gills after being on his back for the majority of the fight. That's literally what you saw. It showed that even in his most vulnerable state, he was able to finish his opponent. Then he finished him again in their rematch. Exposed? It only exposed him as a true champion who never quits and can never be counted out.

Yes, Chael brought out the absolute best version of Anderson Silva but that just means that he did that to the best version of Anderson Silva.

Anderson Silva wasn't on the decline yet, he wasn't slowing down yet.

It doesn't change that he showed that Anderson Silva had a weakness against a guy that could swarm him and pin him.

It shouldnt't take you so much time to underatand this:

1- Sonnen got finished by Silva twice. 2 out of 2.

2 -Those are more finishes in tittle finishes than GSP in his whole championship run.

Its important that you understand this, and that odds favoured Silva.

3. You also need to underatnd how stupid you sound. Look:
"Serra exposed GSP. Imagine what Silva would have done"
That's exactly how you sound

Look, Anderson Silva was great, ok, there is no denying that on my part.

Let's say you are right though let's say that Anderson Silva would have won.

Then that just means that because that fight never happened, the GSP vs Anderson Silva fight, that Anderson Silva never got the opportunity to solidify himself as the GOAT.

Do you see what I mean? That, maybe, proves my original point even more!

Had that fight happened, had Silva won then he would of got the "Fedor is the GOAT" treatment and Fedor would have gotten something akin to the "Rickson by armbar" treatment.

Let's just be real though, the reason Fedor makes the Sambo vs BJJ comments, is in part, because it avoids the SAMBO vs Wreslting discussion which then leads to the question: Did Fedor duck Randy Couture?

I think he did.

Yes, and if your guy, Anderson Silva, isn't accepted as the goat then you can pull the old post modernist escape route that everything is a relative social construct. Ok, sure.

but c'mon Fedor got branded the GOAT, and true or not everyone's been playing catchup ever since.

I'm extremely confident that a clear winner out of GSP vs Anderson Silva would have solidified a GOAT that became the new bar for decades.

The opportunity is there for someone. It's there.

 

[Fioretti]

Yes, Chael brought out the absolute best version of Anderson Silva but that just means that he did that to the best version of Anderson Silva.

Anderson Silva wasn't on the decline yet, he wasn't slowing down yet.

It doesn't change that he showed that Anderson Silva had a weakness against a guy that could swarm him and pin him.




Look, Anderson Silva was great, ok, there is no denying that on my part.

Let's say you are right though let's say that Anderson Silva would have won.

Then that just means that because that fight never happened, the GSP vs Anderson Silva fight, that Anderson Silva never got the opportunity to solidify himself as the GOAT.

Do you see what I mean? That, maybe, proves my original point even more!

Had that fight happened, had Silva won then he would of got the "Fedor is the GOAT" treatment and Fedor would have gotten something akin to the "Rickson by armbar" treatment.

Let's just be real though, the reason Fedor makes the Sambo vs BJJ comments, is in part, because it avoids the SAMBO vs Wreslting discussion which then leads to the question: Did Fedor duck Randy Couture?

I think he did.

Yes, and if your guy, Anderson Silva, isn't accepted as the goat then you can pull the old post modernist escape route that everything is a relative social construct. Ok, sure.

but c'mon Fedor got branded the GOAT, and true or not everyone's been playing catchup ever since.

I'm extremely confident that a clear winner out of GSP vs Anderson Silva would have solidified a GOAT that became the new bar for decades.

The opportunity is there for someone. It's there.

Silva was not at his best, he was injured. Sonnen, at his best, couldn't get the job done against an injured Silva. Not even with a 16.9:1 T/E ratio. You're not accurately depicting the scenario.

 

[pankrat]

Yes, Chael brought out the absolute best version of Anderson Silva but that just means that he did that to the best version of Anderson Silva.

You need to educate yourself.

I'm extremely confident that a clear winner out of GSP vs Anderson Silva would have solidified a GOAT that became the new bar for decades.

I dont agree that a H2H match up between two guys in different weightclasses would settle any discussion but if you are "extremely confident" of it, then there should be no doubts in this discussion for you:
1- Odds favoured Silva in that fight.
2- GSP refused to take on the challenge, according to the promoter himself, despite it would get him more money and legacy. It seems GSP didnt liked his chances.

 

[pankrat]

Gsp won, clearly on the 10 point system.

Yet you still typed "clearly".

You Canadian fanboys in sherdog are just to obvious. Like obscenely obvious.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Just rewatched it after seeing this thread It could have gone either way round 1 was super close, 2,4 Hendricks 1,3,5 GSP is the way I assume it was scored. Rogan did an awful job of being for Hendricks even round 3 when GSP was tooling Hendricks for most of the round then Hendricks gets a simple TD and then says he might have stole the round....No robbery either way, close fight.

 

[BigDanStudd]

I doubt it's the most controversial of all time, and if it is, it really shouldn't be.

I think people either don't remember how close that fight was or assume Hendricks dominated because GSP's face was a mess afterwards.

Round 2 and 4 were clear rounds for Hendricks, 3 and 5 were clear rounds for GSP. You can't argue any of those rounds - they were all clear cut.

So it all comes down to round 1 and how you scored it. Not a whole lot happened in round 1, it just depends what you like. GSP scored a takedown and controlled a lot of the action, but Hendricks landed some decent strikes and managed to cut GSP with an elbow while he was shooting. Either way, it was a competitive round where nothing much happened, and there's really no outrageously wrong answer for which way you scored it.

So when people cite it was one of MMA's biggest robberies, I just have to laugh. Under Pride rules, Hendricks wins. Under UFC rules, which is the rules this fight was contested under, it was a very close fight.

 

[crysis]

I think there's a few things people should consider.

1) it's not gsp's fault that the judges scored in his favor to win the decision, so if anybody wants to point fingers or piss and moan about the outcome then blame the judging, you can't blame the champ for getting the decision even if you think he lost.

2) almost every fan that picks hendricks as the winner bases it on the physical marks and how banged up gsp was on his face, however that doesn't define who won or lost.

especially for someone who cuts or bruises easily like gsp, obviously hendricks connected with harder power shots and left more damage.

gsp did much better controlling the range, controlling the octagon, and won on the score cards....fightmetric has hendricks 85 sig strikes, gsp had 101, hendricks 2 td's and gsp had 3 td's, also gsp had 1 submission attempt so that is the reason why gsp still walked out as champion.

IMHO just because you look beat up doesn't always mean you are the loser, it can be pretty deceiving especially if you solely base it on how gsp looked but not from a technical standpoint or judging it without being biased on the visual damage gsp was showing that night. I'll admit I thought he lost too the first time I seen the fight but after I rewatched it with an open mind and not judging it based on how gsp's face looked, I then realized on how and why the judges scored it in favor of gsp....yes it was a close fight but gsp imo still did enough to legitimately get that win.

 

[MyFavSport]

8 years later. Johny is a policeman and GSP has a wierd haircut
18 page thread

It is controversial
I think Hendricks should've got the win.
And if Johny would've got the nod, I think there would be lots of butthurt GSP fanboys but it wouldn't be as controversial.

 

[pankrat]

Not really- I mean when White comes in and congratulates the cornermen of Hendricks and every fighter in attendance dropped their jaws after hearing scores.
PLEASE . Firas convinced George that he won fight and , of course , gsp wasn't going to say anything otherwise but I saw glimpses of body language of the battered Pierre that spoke a different vernacular. Then the great Gsp tucked tail for " personal reasons " and hiatus ensued.
Only Gsps army of followers, LOL, will - WITH A STRAIGHT FACE - say " oh yeah, everyone is wrong , he out pointed Rigg ".

Thsts some funny shit .

Dana should congratulate both for their fight and not be such an asshole.
Georges really surprised me in the loss; after the first 2 rounds watching the difference in power in exchanges and also in the clinch against the seemingly enchanced opponent; I was sure GSP would not make it 25 minuts yet he did and even won the 5th. Hats off to him.

But yeah, everybody who saw the fight felt GSP lost, including his fans and Georges himself.
And many of us felt robbed because that's the first fight I did bet serious money and I did on Hendricks, under the advice of my coach, and would have been a great first time

 

[DS7]

Gsp won, clearly on the 10 point system.


That was HGH gut he was accused of having. If he was using PED he sure as shit wasn't wasting his time on generic anabolic that are easy to test for and cheap as fuck.

Also , every pic someone has of him with said gut is during scenes where he is exerting himself , hence heavy breathing and/or tightening of the core, pushing it out. When someone has paluboism , or abdominal distension their mid section looks like a fuckin barrel, all the time. It grows the gut tissue and abdominal muscles an extraordinary amount pushing it out dramatically. You can't just turn that on and off, it changes your body on a structural level.

Furthermore, Its a body builder thing. GsP was never a bodybuilder and never had a bodybuilder physique. He spent half his career doing gymnastics ffs. Especially around the time most of the pics people show. That one of himwith his hands on his hips, slouched in the cage, after exerting himself. And also that one of him on stilts or some shit, where he's on a track I think. Absolute horse shit examples.

"clearly"


this is why you GSP fans are insufferable.

 

[ThunderStruck]

So explain GSP's roid belly then Dr Scientist.

The gut of someone with an intestinal disease?

 

[ThunderStruck]

You need to educate yourself.



I dont agree that a H2H match up between two guys in different weightclasses would settle any discussion but if you are "extremely confident" of it, then there should be no doubts in this discussion for you:
1- Odds favoured Silva in that fight.
2- GSP refused to take on the challenge, according to the promoter himself, despite it would get him more money and legacy. It seems GSP didnt liked his chances.

Just like Silva didnt like his chance against Shogun or Rashad, let alone jones.

 

[kevinramsdell]

I was at the shopping mall lately doing some grocery and I was surprised to still heard a conversation about who won between George and Johnny, the fact that people still talk about it 8 years ago just show at what point this fight was polarized. Johnny won it imo.

10000% this story is bullshit. But A for effort. Also, Hendricks lost.

 

[pankrat]

Just like Silva didnt like his chance against Shogun or Rashad, let alone jones.

Maybe you are not aware or rather you area a dishonest fanboy but Silva's friend Machida was in for that Evans fight, and look at the result. Just like Machida was not contending for the MW belst until Silva got dethroned.

Silva did took on the guy who Evans beat for the tittle in a competitive fight thoughand look at the result too.

It's indeed like Silva refusing to take on Jones, except there is a difference in that comparison. Two actually:

1.
GSP and Silva are from the same generation. Jones is next gen.

2.
> GSP's in cage weight used to be close to 190lbs.

> Silva's in cage weight used to be just below 200lbs.

> Jones in cage weight is easily around 220lbs[/QUOTE]

 

[Bouboumaster]

Most controversial?

How about Jones vs Gus 1? Jones vs Santos? Jones vs Reyes?
Or even more obvious, Sterling vs Yan?

GSP vs Hendricks was scored 3-2. How you scored it depends of you but it's not like the worst robbery ever... Only in the eyes of his haters (I'll never understand how you can hate the GOAT btw but whatever)

 

[Deported]

18 pages say yes

/thread…

 

[CRuck1980]

I was at the shopping mall lately doing some grocery and I was surprised to still heard a conversation about who won between George and Johnny, the fact that people still talk about it 8 years ago just show at what point this fight was polarized. Johnny won it imo.

People don't think GSP lost, they just wish he lost.

 

[glavinator]

Yet you still typed "clearly".

You Canadian fanboys in sherdog are just to obvious. Like obscenely obvious.

"clearly"


this is why you GSP fans are insufferable.

Wahh wahhh wahhhhhh
If you can Watch that fight again, OBJECTIVELY, and not listening to Rogan, and say its not a clear 3-2, then , well, keep hanging your hat on this as a knock against gsp career.
Natty goat, gsp bless

 

[IIIIIIII]

hendricks clearly won that fight. the most controversial fight in my opinion is shogun vs. machida 1. that was a clear win for shogun. i still can't believe it was scored for machida.