Is Glover the Goat fighter/coach?

[GrantB13]

Christ Almighty..... I love drawing conclusions from a sample size of one.

 

[Vil7]

I think Duane Ludwig is the best 1.

 

[Goutfather]

Khabib has been their true head coach for over half a decade, maybe longer because Abdulmanap's coaching was lesser in his later years, and fine tuning them into champions. Putting in a lot more man hours with his team than Glover, who did some BJJ with Pereira after he was already one of the best strikers in the world.

It's like not even close.

nah. credit where it’s due, he does sound like a good coach, but many of his notable fighters are people that he’s known for his whole life, and who have been training since a young age. there’s a reason “father’s plan” involved moving everyone in dagestan to aka. and there’s a reason it was “father’s plan,” and not “khabib’s plan.”

the best testament to khabib’s coaching is actually probably belal muhammad.

Mike Brown IMO

He was the best FW in MMA in the late 00s until Aldo got to him and took the belt. Beat the brakes off prime Faber twice who was one of the top P4P fighters in the world and considered by most the best of the little weights (below LW). You can even put Faber in this discussion actually but AFAIK he isn't as involved in direct coaching compared to others

Mike has been the head coach at ATT for a decade now. Coached many champions some of them prospects from the ground up, some of them journeymen before they moved to ATT and had career resurgence. Big reason why ATT was by far the top camp for years.

yup. that’s the mark of a great coach—the fighter actually grows and improves.

 

[MarioLemieux]

nah. credit where it’s due, he does sound like a good coach, but many of his notable fighters are people that he’s known for his whole life, and who have been training since a young age. there’s a reason “father’s plan” involved moving everyone in dagestan to aka. and there’s a reason it was “father’s plan,” and not “khabib’s plan.”

the best testament to khabib’s coaching is actually probably belal muhammad.



yup. that’s the mark of a great coach—the fighter actually grows and improves.

So you're saying guys he's trained and molded guys his whole life like it's a bad thing? Khabib's gym is notorious for saying how great of a coach he is and how instrumental he is. Islam even gave him his title.

 

[Goutfather]

So you're saying guys he's trained and molded guys his whole life like it's a bad thing? Khabib's gym is notorious for saying how great of a coach he is and how instrumental he is. Islam even gave him his title.

first off, khabib was an active fighter until 2020, doing his own weight cuts and training camps. don’t pretend like he was everyone’s coach just because he was in the same gym.

and no, it’s not a “bad” thing, but if you’re coaching an insular group of people, many of whom are family, and they’ve all been training since childhood anyway, it’s really hard to separate the coaching ability from everything else. could khabib coach a total stranger who didn’t grow up wrestling bears? can he do it consistently? can he build fighters up from prospects to champions? that remains to be seen. but this whole idea that you can add up the the records of abdulmanap’s students and then conclude that khabib is the best coach—that’s totally illogical. frankly, it doesn’t really prove anything at all.

 

[theincognito]

How has no one mentioned the actual best this far into the thread?

Pat Miletich. Champion fighter who then trained multiple champions from the ground up.

 

[Fedorgasm]

How has no one mentioned the actual best this far into the thread?

Pat Miletich. Champion fighter who then trained multiple champions from the ground up.

Came in here to say this.

Pat's camp has fallen from grace but they were the best for a long time.

 

[BabyBlue_Bomber]

That honor belongs to Miletich…

 

[stronghulk]

I sometimes think, imagine if Alex went to like ATT or AKA. Glover was a great fighter, seems like an awesome friend and good coach and the fat guy to always is with Alex is probably okay aswell but I think in this case, Alex is the one who gets the job done. He would have been really good where ever he would have trained, even better at some gyms. Maybe, maybe not. Who knows

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Glover is a good trainer but it's hard to say how good he really is as Alex is already a world class martial artist and they soak up things much easier than the rando off the street. Until we actually see Glover train someone from scratch we won't really know how good he is for certain..

 

[NicholasJBasile]

Mike Brown IMO

He was the best FW in MMA in the late 00s until Aldo got to him and took the belt. Beat the brakes off prime Faber twice who was one of the top P4P fighters in the world and considered by most the best of the little weights (below LW). You can even put Faber in this discussion actually but AFAIK he isn't as involved in direct coaching compared to others

Mike has been the head coach at ATT for a decade now. Coached many champions some of them prospects from the ground up, some of them journeymen before they moved to ATT and had career resurgence. Big reason why ATT was by far the top camp for years.

I think I may agree with this. Mike Brown doesn't get enough credit for his role as a coach.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Mike Brown IMO

He was the best FW in MMA in the late 00s until Aldo got to him and took the belt. Beat the brakes off prime Faber twice who was one of the top P4P fighters in the world and considered by most the best of the little weights (below LW). You can even put Faber in this discussion actually but AFAIK he isn't as involved in direct coaching compared to others

Mike has been the head coach at ATT for a decade now. Coached many champions some of them prospects from the ground up, some of them journeymen before they moved to ATT and had career resurgence. Big reason why ATT was by far the top camp for years.

Yea /thread, it's Mike Brown by a long shot.

 

[theincognito]

Came in here to say this.

Pat's camp has fallen from grace but they were the best for a long time.

I think he just stopped training people and went out on top.