Crime Is Flynn Cohen to Prison? (SCO Thread v. 26)

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MC OverPressure said:
He could simply need a bit of time to sort out loose ends.

I get the feeling he'd have been finished earlier but for a mountain of shenanigans he found along the way that he can't simply ignore by virtue of following the law.

I've heard people talking about mid February for the wrap up, we will see
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Man I hope that's true I want to hurry and see how this shit ends.
 
I don't see this ending anytime soon though. Seems like the more they dig, the more they find. Guys like Manafort, Cohen and Stone have been in the game so long, they know enough to seriously put many Republican politicians away and in their current position, shit could really hit the fan.
 
Rational Poster said:
That doesn't make any sense, but whatever you have to tell yourself to protect your daddy.
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Tell me what doesn't make sense to you and I will help you understand. I'll start by explaining my previous post.

You told asked me why I don't trust my country's intelligence agencies. I responded that I did in 2003, but I don't now. The reason for this is that the intelligence agencies provided false intelligence regarding WMDs that was used by the Bush administration as a justification for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Because of that false intelligence provided by the American intelligence community, I have become more skeptical of what they say and don't take everything they say at face value.

Did that help at all?
 
TheBlondBomber said:
Tell me what doesn't make sense to you and I will help you understand. I'll start by explaining my previous post.

You told asked me why I don't trust my country's intelligence agencies. I responded that I did in 2003, but I don't now. The reason for this is that the intelligence agencies provided false intelligence regarding WMDs that was used by the Bush administration as a justification for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Because of that false intelligence provided by the American intelligence community, I have become more skeptical of what they say and don't take everything they say at face value.

Did that help at all?
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No it doesn't.

You're spewing the same old Trump-bot propaganda to justify a very dangerous and unhealthy idea that foreign powers should be trusted over American citizens.

The intelligence agencies didn't provide false intelligence. The intelligence agencies provided ALL the intelligence, accurate and otherwise. The Bush administration, notably Cheney and Rumsfeld, deliberately went for intelligence that confirmed their presuppositions, and willfully disregarded intelligence that contradicted those same presuppositions. They even went so far as to hide reports from Bush himself.


Yes, the intelligence agencies did provide intelligence that the Bush admin ran with, but they also provided even more accurate reports that the Bush admin ignored. The Bush admin also ignored warning from our allies that Curveball source was unreliable.
 
Rational Poster said:
No it doesn't.

You're spewing the same old Trump-bot propaganda to justify a very dangerous and unhealthy idea that foreign powers should be trusted over American citizens.

The intelligence agencies didn't provide false intelligence. The intelligence agencies provided ALL the intelligence, accurate and otherwise. The Bush administration, notably Cheney and Rumsfeld, deliberately went for intelligence that confirmed their presuppositions, and willfully disregarded intelligence that contradicted those same presuppositions. They even went so far as to hide reports from Bush himself.


Yes, the intelligence agencies did provide intelligence that the Bush admin ran with, but they also provided even more accurate reports that the Bush admin ignored. The Bush admin also ignored warning from our allies that Curveball source was unreliable.
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Well that's your opinion. Here's someone else's opinion who is a bit more qualified to speak on it.



"You dispute the commonly held belief that Vice President Dick Cheney and other administration officials sold the idea Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It wasn't the White House, you write.

No, not at all — it was us. It was our intelligence estimate. I raised my right hand when [CIA Director George Tenet] asked who supports the key judgments of this national intelligence estimate."

Do you care to rephrase your previous sentiments?
 
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Quipling said:
Turkey doesn't have a whole lot of qualifying companies, either. Qatar, SA, and Rusher have some, though.
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Probably. So pick one and we'll have a friendly wager. I picked Turkey as kind of a longshot educated guess based upon Kushner's involvement there.

We can keep it casual or toss it in the bet thread but either way it wouldn't be a serious thing, AV or sig for a month, maybe?
@xcvbn wanna get in on this action?
 
TheBlondBomber said:
Well that's your opinion. Here's someone else's opinion who is a bit more qualified to speak on it.



"You dispute the commonly held belief that Vice President Dick Cheney and other administration officials sold the idea Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It wasn't the White House, you write.

No, not at all — it was us. It was our intelligence estimate. I raised my right hand when [CIA Director George Tenet] asked who supports the key judgments of this national intelligence estimate."

Do you care to rephrase your previous sentiments?
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Rational Poster said:
No it doesn't.

You're spewing the same old Trump-bot propaganda to justify a very dangerous and unhealthy idea that foreign powers should be trusted over American citizens.

The intelligence agencies didn't provide false intelligence. The intelligence agencies provided ALL the intelligence, accurate and otherwise. The Bush administration, notably Cheney and Rumsfeld, deliberately went for intelligence that confirmed their presuppositions, and willfully disregarded intelligence that contradicted those same presuppositions. They even went so far as to hide reports from Bush himself.


Yes, the intelligence agencies did provide intelligence that the Bush admin ran with, but they also provided even more accurate reports that the Bush admin ignored. The Bush admin also ignored warning from our allies that Curveball source was unreliable.
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Please take the Iraq rehash somewhere else.
 
Hunter Simpson said:
Probably. So pick one and we'll have a friendly wager. I picked Turkey as kind of a longshot educated guess based upon Kushner's involvement there.

We can keep it casual or toss it in the bet thread but either way it wouldn't be a serious thing, AV or sig for a month, maybe?
@xcvbn wanna get in on this action?
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Sure, lemme think a bit about which of the three I want. Could just start a pool-bet on the subject with us, @xcvbn and anybody else who is interested.
 
TheBlondBomber said:
It's relevant any time the intelligence community's word is supposed to be taken at face value.
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"The intelligence community's word shouldn't be taken at face value."

"Here is the word of the intelligence community about why their word shouldn't be taken at face value."

{<huh}
 
TheBlondBomber said:
Well that's your opinion. Here's someone else's opinion who is a bit more qualified to speak on it.



"You dispute the commonly held belief that Vice President Dick Cheney and other administration officials sold the idea Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. It wasn't the White House, you write.

No, not at all — it was us. It was our intelligence estimate. I raised my right hand when [CIA Director George Tenet] asked who supports the key judgments of this national intelligence estimate."

Do you care to rephrase your previous sentiments?
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So you trust Michael Hayden here... but not anywhere else?

What about all the shitting on Trump's he has done? Do you trust that?

If you actually listen to the conversation he said, "It was a swing and a miss"

Meaning that, the believe it to be true, but were wrong. That doesn't mean they lied about it. They provided the source they believed was accurate, and other sources they also believed were accurate. That doesn't mean they lied about.

This is a problem I run into a lot with lower intellects with their inability to differentiate from a person lying and just being wrong.
 
Rational Poster said:
So you trust Michael Hayden here... but not anywhere else?

What about all the shitting on Trump's he has done? Do you trust that?

If you actually listen to the conversation he said, "It was a swing and a miss"

Meaning that, the believe it to be true, but were wrong. That doesn't mean they lied about it. They provided the source they believed was accurate, and other sources they also believed were accurate. That doesn't mean they lied about.

This is a problem I run into a lot with lower intellects with their inability to differentiate from a person lying and just being wrong.
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So are you admitting that your previous post about the intelligence community's role in the invasion of Iraq is false?

If not, why do you trust Hayden when it comes to him shitting on Trump, but not on the intelligence community not being infallible?

This is a problem I run into a lot with lower intellects, they can't understand that you can agree with a person on one issue, but not on every issue.
 
TheBlondBomber said:
So are you admitting that your previous post about the intelligence community's role in the invasion of Iraq is false?

If not, why do you trust Hayden when it comes to him shitting on Trump, but not on the intelligence community not being infallible?

This is a problem I run into a lot with lower intellects, they can't understand that you can agree with a person on one issue, but not on every issue.
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I never said they were infallible. They're just more trust worthy than foreign governments.
 
Rational Poster said:
I never said they were infallible. They're just more trust worthy than foreign governments.
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So why do you believe that KK is a Russian spy, even though the prosecution won't go that far, only making an ambiguous claim like "he has ties to Russian intelligence"? What does that statement even mean? Did he work as an interpreter for the GRU in the past? Yes. But does that mean he's a Russian spy?
 
Hunter Simpson said:
Probably. So pick one and we'll have a friendly wager. I picked Turkey as kind of a longshot educated guess based upon Kushner's involvement there.

We can keep it casual or toss it in the bet thread but either way it wouldn't be a serious thing, AV or sig for a month, maybe?
@xcvbn wanna get in on this action?
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Quipling said:
Sure, lemme think a bit about which of the three I want. Could just start a pool-bet on the subject with us, @xcvbn and anybody else who is interested.
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No idea what's going on but I want in
 
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