Crime Is Flynn Cohen to Prison? (SCO Thread v. 26)

[Rational Poster]

Coming from a guy who has responded to over 100 memes with paragraphs of useless words and incoherent ramblings in a meme thread .. oh I forgot your #woke

You're*

 

[Mr Holmes]

Yes? It's about him lying and violating his plea bargain for several of those crimes

Oh, I thought it was about sharing polling data with a Russian

 

[MikeMcMann]

What law was broken?

Federal election law, administered by the Federal Election Commission, prohibits contributions, donations and other expenditures by “foreign nationals” in any federal, state or local election as well an exchange of any “thing of value.” Most recently, Section 303 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act, strengthened the ban on foreign money in U.S. electioneering.

 

[7437]

Oh, I thought it was about sharing polling data with a Russian

Yes lying about that violated his plea agreement. Try to keep up.

 

[Ophydian]

Oh, I thought it was about sharing polling data with a Russian

Any investigation is bits and pieces not a glaring smoking gun. Having your campaign manager sharing Trump polling data obtained by Cambridge Analytical with a Russian with ties to Intel is another piece of the puzzle.

Is this it? No

Are you looking more and more like a mark, like a fool? Yes.

The more pieces that come out the more uneducated morons like you and Bob look like the fools guys like Trump Con every day.

 

[funcrusher2007]

So, it’s nothing.


Got it.

No one in my campaign (except for the campaign manager, national security adviser, sole congressional backer and future attorney general, political adviser Page, political adviser Stone, senior advisor Sater, foreign policy adviser Papadopoulos, son in law, actual son) had any contact (except for important information about who to target) with the Russians (except for that one GRU agent).

-trump

At this point you gotta cut the shit.

 

[funcrusher2007]

Any investigation is bits and pieces not a glaring smoking gun. Having your campaign manager sharing Trump polling data obtained by Cambridge Analytical with a Russian with ties to Intel is another piece of the puzzle.

Is this it? No

Are you looking more and more like a mark, like a fool? Yes.

The more pieces that come out the more uneducated morons like you and Bob look like the fools guys like Trump Con every day.

They can’t even see the con job, he’s got them so wrapped up in maga that all critical thinking skills are out the window

 

[Jack Reacher]

So, it’s nothing.


Got it.

This is definitive proof of collusion at the highest level of the trump campaign

 

[Jack Reacher]

This is not a bombshell, but it's not that far short of it either. It's evidence that Manafort was sharing (comprehensive) voter info with Russian intelligence officers. The relevant information are the degree to which other people in the campaign were involved in this and how much was known about what this info would be used for.

What's with the hedging? I understand why media outlets can't state the obvious but this is truly it. We have proof of coordination and quid pro quo. Collusion is a settled issue now.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Yes lying about that violated his plea agreement. Try to keep up.

JFC on a pogo stick

 

[MikeMcMann]

No one in my campaign (except for the campaign manager, national security adviser, sole congressional backer and future attorney general, political adviser Page, political adviser Stone, senior advisor Sater, foreign policy adviser Papadopoulos, son in law, actual son) had any contact (except for important information about who to target) with the Russians (except for that one GRU agent).

-trump

At this point you gotta cut the shit.

ya but even if they all did they never discussed anything important.

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and even if you can prove they exchanged important info that is not illegal


(lets just get all the defenses on the table)

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Any investigation is bits and pieces not a glaring smoking gun. Having your campaign manager sharing Trump polling data obtained by Cambridge Analytical with a Russian with ties to Intel is another piece of the puzzle.

Is this it? No

Are you looking more and more like a mark, like a fool? Yes.

The more pieces that come out the more uneducated morons like you and Bob look like the fools guys like Trump Con every day.

There was a popular expression about a decade ago, useful idiot.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

This is definitive proof of collusion at the highest level of the trump campaign

We're a couple of red cunt hairs away, seemingly, so we can safely talk about the stink of the cooze

 

[funcrusher2007]

What law was broken?

I’ll bite..

George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty last October to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them).

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last December to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated, but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.


So far.....

 

[Jack Reacher]

We're a couple of red cunt hairs away, seemingly, so we can safely talk about the stink of the cooze

It bothers the fuck out of me that talking heads (except Blitzer) are pretending 'we still need to get all the facts'. Its over it's done, the end has begun.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

Only the best treason.

Manafort should have only the best execution.

You're wanting a person to be executed for allegedly sharing polling data?

I certainly hope you're joking, because if even the slightest part of you isn't joking, then it's safe to say that you've taken politics to an unhealthy level.

 

[nixkid]

Is.... Isn't sharing poll numbers what cable news does every night during campaign season? Do they first say "All Russian citizens, please change the channel"?

No, the implication here is that he shared internal polling data which is way more detailed than "Who would you vote for?" Its the kind of stuff that is used internally to drive strategy within a campaign (they don't share this data..it is a campaign secret) which means that it could also be useful if you wanted to hone in on targeted messaging for a online troll campaign.

Thats the reason why Paul Manafort lied about it. You get that right? You think he would commit a felony (lying to the FBI) to cover up that he shared publicly available polls.

The bridge to collusion is forming right before our eyes I guess thats why you've decided to close yours.

 

[HereticBD]

This is definitive proof of collusion at the highest level of the trump campaign

Hi, Wally.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

You're wanting a person to be executed for allegedly sharing polling data?

I certainly hope you're joking, because if even the slightest part of you isn't joking, then it's safe to say that you've taken politics to an unhealthy level.

I would love to participate in a thread about what should happen to proven traitors. Execution, no.

Stripped of citizenship and deported like an illegal immigrant, sure.

 

[funcrusher2007]

You're wanting a person to be executed for allegedly sharing polling data?

I certainly hope you're joking, because if even the slightest part of you isn't joking, then it's safe to say that you've taken politics to an unhealthy level.

So of two pages of discussion so far...
This post is what you chose to analyze?

On topic.. what do you think about trumps campaign chair, being 100 percent connected to Russian collusion and sharing American polling information with Russia? All the while trump lying and saying neither him nor any of his people colluded with Russia?