Is artificial intelligence/machine learning the answer to poor MMA Judging?

no because the ufc relies on the excuse of human error to racketeer their operation I suspect.
 
Someone ask ChatGPT4 if Bisping over Hamill was the correct score.

that’ll give us our answer.
 
PFL used to call it Fighter Performance Rating, not sure why they started calling it an AI Score this year. Did they change how it works?

From what I've seen the FPR/AI usually scores the fights correctly. They don't explain how it works though other than the only way to get a 100 score in a round is to finish the fight.
 
I'm not sure if it's possible unless we quantify every action in MMA.
We would need to know how many points do you get for a takedown, a jab, a low lick, high kick, getting back up after takedown and so on and so on.
Everything in an MMA fight would need clear points otherwise an AI would not know how to score it.
Since it's not clear what action gets how many points in MMA every fight upto now has been the judges feelings and nothing more.
If every action had a value there would never be any discussion about who won, because it would be a simple matter of adding up the points.
Now the victory goes to whomever the judges "feel" they won, but, it's not by the actual numbers.
AI doesn't have feelings, it would need actual numbers and/or data to determine a winner.
And if we would use actual data to judge MMA, we wouldn't need AI, because we can add the numbers ourself.
The problem with judging has always been the fact that actions in MMA don't have any quantification and/or specific numbers value, wich makes it impossible to judge correct.
 
This is something that was discussed a bit back around 2008 or so, and I still feel that it isn't. There are too many complex intangibles in my opinion. Even if there were instruments to measure the Newtons of force for each strike and the torque on each submission attempt, I don't believe it to be feasible.
 
I am sitting here watching the PFL and they mentioned how the AI scored the last bout. That got me thinking. Is Artificial intelligence the answer to poor MMA judging and why hasn’t the UFC not looked into an AI system to score their fights? What are some of your thoughts?
Ideallly yes, but then no one is accountable, and there is always the suspicion of rigging, or
biaises.

And AI can be pretty damn stupid in some scenarios.
 
It’s not a bad idea to add more technology into the equation. Soon they will likely have motorized cameras all around the cage and will be able to give us matrix style replays in real-time. Could you imagine seeing this KO like that?
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It would not cost a crazy amount to have cameras lining the outside of the cage. A camera every foot or 6 inches around the cage would not cost much. Then splice all the frames together in post and even interpolate if you want. UFC should be doing something like this just for advertising.
 
AI is definitely not the answer, but machine learning might be. And the goddamned press that can't bother learning the difference between the two should shove an MMA referee up its collective ass.

There is no difference. Just that AI implies sentience, which has never existed.
 
Ideallly yes, but then no one is accountable, and there is always the suspicion of rigging, or
biaises.

And AI can be pretty damn stupid in some scenarios.

It just depends on how it is programmed and trained. This is all simplier than a self driving car my several orders of magnitude .
 
machines can be rigged as well...entire elections are stolen and rigged this way.
 
It would not cost a crazy amount to have cameras lining the outside of the cage. A camera every foot or 6 inches around the cage would not cost much. Then splice all the frames together in post and even interpolate if you want. UFC should be doing something like this just for advertising.
That’s what I am saying and could not agree with you more. With the amount of money the UFC generates, this would not be a very inexpensive addition. It could be even controlled by a few people almost like in a casino when they are zooming cameras in and out looking for cheaters. This would be very easy to do.
 
It just depends on how it is programmed and trained..
Precisely, and that's the issue.
Who would program it? How? Who would sanction the validity of the software?
Judges are not under the UFC control, so a judging software shouldn't be either.

Regardless of regulation issues I think it would work very well in most cases and go terribly wrong in some bizarre fights. Because the training works only with the material available.

Also, if an AI judge were to develop some bizarre, specific trends, it could be exploited by the fighters and be detrimental to fights. Fighters would just be there to beat the AI rather than fight For example, if it scores heavily on strike numbers and is not very sensitive to strikes landing clean, some fighters could just throw hundreds of half ass jabs and get a shitty win.
 
Fuck what? No! It will just optimize bad judging to make it smooth and perfect slicing of more $ with us looking at it clueless. But somewhat annoyed. Fuck that shit! It is even worse in the long run.
 
Precisely, and that's the issue.
Who would program it? How? Who would sanction the validity of the software?
Judges are not under the UFC control, so a judging software shouldn't be either.

Regardless of regulation issues I think it would work very well in most cases and go terribly wrong in some bizarre fights. Because the training works only with the material available.

Also, if an AI judge were to develop some bizarre, specific trends, it could be exploited by the fighters and be detrimental to fights. Fighters would just be there to beat the AI rather than fight For example, if it scores heavily on strike numbers and is not very sensitive to strikes landing clean, some fighters could just throw hundreds of half ass jabs and get a shitty win.
This is a very interesting viewpoint. ‘Fighters training to beat the AI rather than fight.’ I think that’s very possible as well. And since the AI would be learning from pretty much every mma fight since it’s inception. It may also have a very flawed foundation of knowledge, since those outcomes weren’t 100% accurate as they were judged by humans.
 
Precisely, and that's the issue.
Who would program it? How? Who would sanction the validity of the software?
Judges are not under the UFC control, so a judging software shouldn't be either.

Regardless of regulation issues I think it would work very well in most cases and go terribly wrong in some bizarre fights. Because the training works only with the material available.

Also, if an AI judge were to develop some bizarre, specific trends, it could be exploited by the fighters and be detrimental to fights. Fighters would just be there to beat the AI rather than fight For example, if it scores heavily on strike numbers and is not very sensitive to strikes landing clean, some fighters could just throw hundreds of half ass jabs and get a shitty win.
Maycee barber will be undefeated in AI judged fights.
 
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