• Xenforo Cloud has upgraded us to version 2.3.6. Please report any issues you experience.

International Tribunal at The Hague Rejects Beijing's B.S Territorial Claims in the South China Sea

Arkain2K

Si vis pacem, para bellum
@Steel
Joined
Dec 6, 2010
Messages
33,612
Reaction score
5,997
See this live updates for the latest news developments on an international tribunal's ruling on the case filed by the Philippines against China's claims in the South China Sea:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/...uth-china-sea-ruling-the-latest.html?referer=

Beijing’s claims to South China Sea rejected by international tribunal
By Simon Denyer and Emily Rauhala
July 12, 2016

2300southchina07xx.jpg

The Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled that China does not have historic rights to justify its expansive claims. The verdict, which strongly favored the Philippines, will undermine China's claim to sovereignty under the nine-dash line it draws around most of the sea.


BEIJING — China’s expansive assertion of sovereignty over the South China Sea suffered a major blow Tuesday when an international tribunal ruled that its claims have no legal or historical basis, throwing up the possibility of a new period of tension and confrontation in the region.

Beijing fiercely rejected the decision by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, which sided unequivocally with the Philippines against China. The United States urged calm.

China’s government has whipped up nationalist sentiment in recent years to support its “indisputable sovereignty” over a huge swath of the South China Sea, and it has engaged in an intensive program of island-building there to extend its de facto control.

China is now faced with a dilemma: It can signal its displeasure at the ruling by extending that program and militarizing the islands it controls, risking confrontation and even conflict with emboldened Asian neighbors and the United States. Or it can suspend the program and adopt a more conciliatory approach, at the risk of a loss of face domestically.

“It’s a slap in the face for China,” said Shen Dingli, a professor of international relations at Fudan University. “It’s a lose-lose situation for China — take action and risk armed confrontation or, while reiterating its tough stance, stop building and fishing, which is what the ruling asks.”

The tribunal also ruled that China had violated the Philippines’ sovereign rights by constructing artificial islands and had caused “permanent irreparable harm to the coral reef ecosystem.”

The decision was hailed as a landmark victory for those worried that Beijing is extending its military control over waters with key strategic and commercial significance. But Chinese President Xi Jinping signaled that he was in no mood to back down.

“The islands in the South China Sea have been Chinese territories since ancient times,” he said, according to state media. “China opposes and will never accept any claim or action based on these awards.”

The Foreign Ministry said China “solemnly declares that the award is null and void and has no binding force.”

Nor would it be easy for Xi to back down after making the “great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation” one of his signature slogans, drawing a rhetorical line from its past “humiliation” at the hands of Western colonial powers and Japan to his vision of a strong, proud China under Communist Party rule.

But the verdict will nevertheless undermine Beijing’s claim to sovereignty within what it calls the “nine-dash line,” which it draws around most of the South China Sea.

The Philippines took China to the PCA in January 2013 after the Chinese navy seized control of Scarborough Shoal, a largely submerged chain of reefs and rocks amid rich fishing grounds off the Philippine island of Luzon.

The ruling could lead to more friction between China and the United States, with the issue seen as a key test of Washington’s ability to maintain its leading role in Asian security in the face of China’s rising power.

The State Department said it “hopes and expects” that China and the Philippines will abide by the ruling. “We urge all claimants to avoid provocative statements or actions,” said State Department spokesman John Kirby.

Philippine Foreign Secretary Perfecto Yasay Jr. called the ruling a “milestone,” but he also urged “restraint and sobriety” for all concerned.

Richard Javad Heydarian, an assistant professor of political science at Manila’s De La Salle University, said the verdict is “the best-case scenario that few thought possible.”

“It is a clean sweep for the Philippines,” Heydarian said, “with the tribunal rejecting China’s nine-dashed line and historical rights claim as well as censuring its aggressive activities in the area and, among others, the ecological damage caused by its reclamation activity.”

In China, Chen Xiangmiao, an assistant research fellow at the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, said: “The nine-dash line is the foundation of China’s claim to sovereignty activities in the South China Sea, which has been smashed by the ruling. It is highly possible that the Philippines will expand its presence in the South China Sea, which will create conflict.”

Beijing refused to participate in the arbitration process and launched a global propaganda campaign. Foreign Minister Wang Yi was quoted as telling Secretary of State John F. Kerry last week that the case was a “farce.” His ministry said it was delusional to think China would bow to diplomatic pressure to accept the ruling.

Some $5 trillion in commerce, roughly one-third of global trade, flows through the South China Sea every year, while its fisheries account for 12percent of the global catch, and significant oil and gas reserves are thought to exist under the seafloor. The waters are some of the most fiercely disputed in the world, with claims to various parts staked by Brunei, Malaysia, Vietnam and Taiwan, in addition to China and the Philippines.

China claims sovereignty over almost all the islands, reefs and rocks in the sea — including those hundreds of miles from Chinese shores.

In the past two years, Beijing has turned seven reefs and rocks into nascent military outposts, with airstrips and radar installations under construction.

But the tribunal backed the Philippines’ submission that none of those features are islands — as defined by the 1982 U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Only natural — rather than artificial — islands that can sustain human habitation qualify for both the 12 nautical miles of territorial waters and 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zones under UNCLOS.

In other words, the ruling drastically undermines China’s claim to the waters surrounding the island bases it is building.

Beijing says the tribunal lacked the jurisdiction to rule on Manila’s various submissions. Though its decision is legally binding, the court lacks any mechanism to enforce its rulings.

Nevertheless, the outcome of the case will provide an important indication of China’s willingness to submit to international law, and of what kind of global power it wants to become.

“This is a breathtaking indictment of China’s position in the South China Sea,” said David Welch, a global-security scholar at the Balsillie School of International Affairs in Waterloo, Ontario. “It will be very difficult for Beijing to pretend that the tribunal’s finding does not matter legally, politically or practically. How China reacts over the next days and weeks will essentially determine its international standing for decades.”

What happens next will depend on how all the key players react.

The U.S. Navy has already conducted several “freedom of navigation” exercises in the South China Sea, sending warships within 12 nautical miles of islands, reefs and rocks controlled by China and other claimants. Washington is also rebuilding military ties with the Philippines. China cites this as evidence that President Obama’s actions — not its own island-building — are responsible for militarizing the region.

China could attempt to reinforce its position by building a new military base on Scarborough Shoal, a move that would clearly be viewed as dangerously provocative by Washington and Manila.

Paul Reichler, the Philippines’ chief counsel in the case, said the ruling was likely to unite all the rival claimants to the waters of the South China Sea against China. “China may face a prolonged period of embittered neighbors and an uncertain, unstable and insecure situation in the South China Sea unless and until it finds a way to accommodate itself to the rule of law as clearly set forth in the arbitral award,” he said.

China, which hosts a summit of the Group of 20 major economies in September, may want time to gauge the reaction from Manila, where the newly elected president, Rodrigo Duterte, has sent mixed signals.

Early in his election campaign, Duterte implied he might be willing to soften his stance on China in return for Chinese infrastructure projects on his home island of Mindanao. But he later promised to ride a water scooter to Scarborough Shoal to plant the Philippine flag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...100f48-4771-11e6-8dac-0c6e4accc5b1_story.html
 
Last edited:
Does china really give a shit?
 
‘Ill-founded, farcical’: Beijing blasts South China Sea ruling, vows to defend its interests
https://www.rt.com/news/350792-china-south-sea-farce/

China has gone ballistic over The Hague Tribunal's rejection of claims to “historic rights” in the South China Sea in a case brought by the Philippines. Beijing called the verdict “ill-founded,” warning its armed forces would defend its maritime interests.

President Xi Jinping has acknowledged that China is dedicated to maintaining peace and stability in the South China Sea, but will accept no actions based on the outcome of the arbitration case, Reuters reported.

Looks like China is about to have its own Crimea-type confrontation with the west.
 
The USA looking for trouble as usual. You will get your ass kicked.
 
This is both huge and irrelevant. Irrelevant in the sense that China will demonstrate its power. It will take these islands because it can and the US will not go to war over them (especially not for Duterte's China loving communists).

On the other hand, China always was big on emphasizing international law, now they get exposed as hypocrites.
 
On the other hand, China always was big on emphasizing international law, now they get exposed as hypocrites.

Yup. Seems like they really are on their way to being a global power.

The more power you have the more contempt you have for democratic instruments like international law, the ICC, UN resolutions, etc.
 
So basically the tribunal rules that China's claims are invalid, but China like any major power is ignoring the ruling. The court said its decision is legally binding, but they have no way of enforcing any of its decisions. ts rulings were ignored by Britain and Russia in the past.

Basically, Philippines won a moral victory, but China is still keeping the spoils and giving international law the finger. Meet the new superpower, same as the old superpowers.
China has firmly rejected an international tribunal ruling that its claims to rights in the South China Sea have no legal basis.

President Xi Jinping said China's "territorial sovereignty and marine rights" in the seas would not be affected by the ruling "in any way".

But he insisted China was still "committed to resolving disputes" with its neighbours.

The Philippines brought the case to the Permanent Court of Arbitration.

The tribunal, based in the Hague, ruled that there was no evidence that China had historic rights to the waters or resources that fell within its "nine-dash line", and was violating the Philippine's sovereign rights with its operations there.

It is binding but the Permanent Court of Arbitration has no powers of enforcement.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36777348
 
China denies preparing war over South China Sea shoal
  • 12 May 2012
  • From the section Asia
Image copyright AFP
Image caption China denies its fleet is on alert
China has denied reports its military forces are preparing for war amid tensions over a disputed territory in the South China Sea.

The defence ministry statement comes despite warnings to the Philippines that military conflict is possible over a reef known as the Scarborough Shoal.

Ships from China and the Philippines have been confronting each other for more than a month over the shoal.

Both sides accuse the other of intruding into territorial waters.

"Reports that the Guangzhou military region, the South China Sea fleet and other units have entered a state of war preparedness are untrue," the ministry said in a brief statement on its website late on Friday.

Fears of an armed clash escalated when the Chinese army's own newspaper warned the military should not be treated as a paper tiger, says BBC Asia analyst Charles Scanlon.

That led to excited rumours on Chinese internet sites that the navy was preparing for action and that the Guangzhou military command in the south of the country was on a war footing, our analyst says.

The defence ministry has officially denied those reports - but hardline elements in the leadership appear to be losing patience with the defiant approach of a much smaller neighbour.

Analysts say the central government may see an opportunity to deflect attention from its internal problems.

We do call on governments to clarify and pursue those claims and accompanying maritime rights in accordance with international law including the UN Law of the Sea Convention
Bob Carr , Australian foreign minister
But its intentions are far from clear - and the competing interests of maritime agencies and the military mean its next step is hard to predict, our analyst adds.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18045383
 
This is a dangerous situation folks. China is not going to back down here. It is strategically imperative China secures the shipping lane in it's backyard.

The best we can hope for is a International security operation that includes the US, SE Asian allies, Russia, and China.
 
China denies preparing war over South China Sea shoal
  • 12 May 2012
  • From the section Asia
Image copyright AFP
Image caption China denies its fleet is on alert
China has denied reports its military forces are preparing for war amid tensions over a disputed territory in the South China Sea.

The defence ministry statement comes despite warnings to the Philippines that military conflict is possible over a reef known as the Scarborough Shoal.

Ships from China and the Philippines have been confronting each other for more than a month over the shoal.

Both sides accuse the other of intruding into territorial waters.

"Reports that the Guangzhou military region, the South China Sea fleet and other units have entered a state of war preparedness are untrue," the ministry said in a brief statement on its website late on Friday.

Fears of an armed clash escalated when the Chinese army's own newspaper warned the military should not be treated as a paper tiger, says BBC Asia analyst Charles Scanlon.

That led to excited rumours on Chinese internet sites that the navy was preparing for action and that the Guangzhou military command in the south of the country was on a war footing, our analyst says.

The defence ministry has officially denied those reports - but hardline elements in the leadership appear to be losing patience with the defiant approach of a much smaller neighbour.

Analysts say the central government may see an opportunity to deflect attention from its internal problems.

We do call on governments to clarify and pursue those claims and accompanying maritime rights in accordance with international law including the UN Law of the Sea Convention
Bob Carr , Australian foreign minister
But its intentions are far from clear - and the competing interests of maritime agencies and the military mean its next step is hard to predict, our analyst adds.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18045383
Why are you linking this article? It is more than 4 years old.
 
Why are you linking this article? It is more than 4 years old.


Oops, my bad. Let me find one that is more recent.

China says it's ready if US 'stirs up any conflict' in South China Sea
Seema Mody | Ted Kemp
Thursday, 19 May 2016 | 2:04 PM ETCNBC.com

103681324-4ed3-cb-seemachina-053116.600x400.jpg

South China Sea dispute escalatesWednesday, 1 Jun 2016 | 11:51 AM ET|01:40
BEIJING — China's attempts to claim a nearly 1.4-million-square-mile swathe of open ocean are without precedent and probably without legal merit, but Beijing continues to assert its right to the economically critical zone — and increasingly puts its claims in military terms.

Speaking to a small group of reporters in Beijing on Thursday, a high-ranking Chinese official made his warning clear: The United States should not provoke China in the South China Sea without expecting retaliation.

"The Chinese people do not want to have war, so we will be opposed to [the] U.S. if it stirs up any conflict," said Liu Zhenmin, vice minister of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. "Of course, if the Korean War or Vietnam War are replayed, then we will have to defend ourselves."

The so-called "nine-dash line" that China has drawn over most of the South China Sea — a gargantuan territorial claim that stretches about 1,200 miles from its shores — would give Beijing control over a zone that's estimated to handle about half of global merchant shipping, a third of the planet's oil shipping, two-thirds of global liquid natural gas shipments, and more than a 10th of Earth's fish catch. The Obama administration, backed by several Asian governments and entities such as the Brookings Institution, argues that such massive ocean claims at great distance from land are "inconsistent with international law."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/19/chin...stirs-up-any-conflict-in-south-china-sea.html
 
This is a dangerous situation folks. China is not going to back down here. It is strategically imperative China secures the shipping lane in it's backyard.

The best we can hope for is a International security operation that includes the US, SE Asian allies, Russia, and China.
It should be noted that none of the major world powers have ever obeyed rulings by international courts or tribunals when it's not in their favor. Everybody is for international law until it is time for them to follow it.
 
I don't think the U.S. is scared of a bunch of ching chong dongs and their 50+ year old Soviet hand-me-down warships.
 
I don't think the U.S. is scared of a bunch of ching chong dongs and their 50+ year old Soviet hand-me-down warships.

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced
By MATTHEW HICKLEY

Last updated at 00:13 10 November 2007


Published: 10 November 2007

When the U.S. Navy deploys a battle fleet on exercises, it takes the security of its aircraft carriers very seriously indeed.

At least a dozen warships provide a physical guard while the technical wizardry of the world's only military superpower offers an invisible shield to detect and deter any intruders.

That is the theory. Or, rather, was the theory.

Scroll down for more ...

submarine_468x323.jpg

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

According to senior Nato officials the incident caused consternation in the U.S. Navy.

The Americans had no idea China's fast-growing submarine fleet had reached such a level of sophistication, or that it posed such a threat.

One Nato figure said the effect was "as big a shock as the Russians launching Sputnik" - a reference to the Soviet Union's first orbiting satellite in 1957 which marked the start of the space age.



The incident, which took place in the ocean between southern Japan and Taiwan, is a major embarrassment for the Pentagon.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-military-chiefs-red-faced.html#ixzz4EEaZ2FEP
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


This was almost 10 years ago.
 
Back
Top