Interesting exchange on Judo, Karo vs Sokoudjou

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  1. BSFT

    BSFT Brown Belt

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    Article on the Impact FC press conference on the front page, Josh Barnett initiates a funny little Judo v Judo tif between Karo Parysian and Sokoudjou...

    there's some other good stuff in the article as well.


    Fraternizing, Giant Puddle Dominate Impact FC Presser
     
  2. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    wow, sounds like that was a mess of a press conference
     
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    Well I think you have to consider that Karo trained under Gokor, who really taught his own brand of judo, including a lot of leglocks and other things that traditional judo schools don't teach. I'm sure Karo's judo training had a much greater submission emphasis than Sokoudjou, who originally trained exclusively for sport competition (although Karo also competed in sport judo).
     
  4. Drew Foster

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    That's my boy Karo right there for ya!
     
  5. xMikeyX

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    Karo beat predators when he was how old? Also- Judo Gene Lebell taught Karo- Gokor and Karo don't get along.
     
  6. bnosam

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    What happened there?
     
  7. SuperSuperRambo

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    Really? I wasn't aware of that.
     
  8. BSFT

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    i found a clip that was uploaded in 2007, no idea how old it was then...

     
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    cptsteve21 Purple Belt

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    I could be wrong here, but I think the fallout between Gokor and Karo is fairly recent, the past few years or so at most. Gokor taught Karo, with teaching probably supplemented by Judo Gene (who is friends with Gokor and teaches at Hyastan Academy as well, unless I'm mistaken).
     
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    Im probly going to get blasted for saying this, but did Karo win that match with a duck under to a single leg?
     
  11. BSFT

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    yes. he must be a catch guy... :icon_chee
     
  12. bnosam

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    That's what it looks like to me :icon_chee
     
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    What was the falling out over?
     
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    ITwas 10 years ago ! GOKOR AND GENE both taught KARO . KARO is a good guy with problems. RESPECT to GOKOR and his gym is one problem.
     
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    LOL you read my mind!!!!!!:redface: Honestly, 10 seconds before that happened i was thinking to myself why doesn't someone just shoot a double, because that wouldn't be Judo was my answer......then BAM!:eek: its over.
     
  16. BSFT

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    i'm sure a Judo guy could answer, but didn't the change the rules to where now you are not allowed to grab the legs at all?
     
  17. bnosam

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    As far as I know, now that would be an illegal takedown
     
  18. Alaskantkdkid

    Alaskantkdkid Green Belt

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    You can still grab the leg but it can't be your first attack and you have to have some from of contact with the upper body still is how I heard it explained. I avoid them though because it is fuzzy what is and isn't legal, it is safer to not do leg attacks because the risk of getting DQ'd isn't worth it.
     
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    Refs also do have different interpretations of the rules too which doesn't help
     
  20. Drew Foster

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    The fallout was within the past 5 years, so it was very recent. Karo now credits Gene as his teacher and mentor. I don't think it would be appropriate or me or anyone that knows to discuss any details that are only important to Karo and Gokor. BUT.... how do all fall outs happen? Things gradually build up over time and resentments and grievances become too much for people to overcome in their relationships and sometimes it is better to part ways and grow separately than together.
     

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