Tech "intel's f-----"

[Unknown Pleasures]

wumao gotta wumao. butthurt? btfo? fill the thread with walls of spam!




btw:

Dude doesn't seem happy.

 

[jefferz]

I have heard of cat fights between Sony and Microsoft fanboys, but cat fights between Intel and AMD fanboys? There are actually fanboys of CPUs?

Most tech enthusiasts will buy whatever provides the better price/performance. You'll see way more AMD fanboys than Intel or Nvidia. If you go to any forum or social media post about an Nvidia or Intel product, you're going to see shill thrown around a lot by AMD fanboys.
If a tech Youtuber gives a bad review of an AMD product, they're labelled shills by the AMD fanboys. For example, one of the most trusted Youtubers, Gamers Nexus, did a review of an AMD graphics card and there was an Nvidia box on the shelf behind the reviewer. They were labelled shills, people said they were no longer reliable, accused of taking money from Nvidia for having their box in the background, etc. All because of a box on a shelf. A box, on a shelf.

 

[PEB]

Most tech enthusiasts will buy whatever provides the better price/performance. You'll see way more AMD fanboys than Intel or Nvidia. If you go to any forum or social media post about an Nvidia or Intel product, you're going to see shill thrown around a lot by AMD fanboys.
If a tech Youtuber gives a bad review of an AMD product, they're labelled shills by the AMD fanboys. For example, one of the most trusted Youtubers, Gamers Nexus, did a review of an AMD graphics card and there was an Nvidia box on the shelf behind the reviewer. They were labelled shills, people said they were no longer reliable, accused of taking money from Nvidia for having their box in the background, etc. All because of a box on a shelf. A box, on a shelf.

Thank you for a common sense post and completely agree I also will add I like that AMD on top but I also want competition to keep technology moving forward. I also want more chip production from other vendors it does not have to be all Intel but Samsung is making 4nm parts and Intel planning on a substantial upgrade and expansion in Europe and US. TSMC is just overwhelmed with its workload and additional capacity is needed to keep automotive and other manufacturing needs filled. This is all I am looking at more production Ford has 1,000s of Bronco's. Ford F150's and others in huge parking areas till chips come in to finish and ship. It's not just Ford, GM. Tesla and Stellantis have issues with chips at various levels.

 

[rob mafia]

Thank you for a common sense post and completely agree I also will add I like that AMD on top but I also want competition to keep technology moving forward. I also want more chip production from other vendors it does not have to be all Intel but Samsung is making 4nm parts and Intel planning on a substantial upgrade and expansion in Europe and US. TSMC is just overwhelmed with its workload and additional capacity is needed to keep automotive and other manufacturing needs filled. This is all I am looking at more production Ford has 1,000s of Bronco's. Ford F150's and others in huge parking areas till chips come in to finish and ship. It's not just Ford, GM. Tesla and Stellantis have issues with chips at various levels.

...wtf? lolz @ trying to make this about ford/gm's archaic chips. yes, they have so much to do with hpc (or tsm/samsung... that's more of a txn thing)! and lolz @ now pretending you're pro-samsung. weird that when i kept mentioning their expansion (along with tsmc), you got pissy and spouted insano intel/nationalism nuttery.

are you multiple personalities or just multiple people? not a wumao, but a rotation? lolz

 

[PEB]

...wtf? lolz @ trying to make this about ford/gm's archaic chips. yes, they have so much to do with hpc (or tsm/samsung... that's more of a txn thing)! and lolz @ now pretending you're pro-samsung. weird that when i kept mentioning their expansion (along with tsmc), you got pissy and spouted insano intel/nationalism nuttery.

are you multiple personalities or just multiple people? not a wumao, but a rotation? lolz

Ford and GM need 10nm and 7nm chips as well as Tesla they are using in semi self driving technology, infotainment, regenerative braking systems and camera logic. Especially infotainment where the technology rivals XBOX and PS level technology with systems going into the latest EV's but go on with your dumb memes.

 

[rob mafia]

Ford and GM need 10nm and 7nm chips as well

citation requested.

as Tesla they are using in semi self driving technology, infotainment, regenerative braking systems and camera logic.

...you just moved goalposts from ford and gm to self driving teslas.

Especially infotainment where the technology rivals XBOX and PS level technology with systems going into the latest EV's but go on with your dumb memes.

yeah, i know. amd supplies them.

 

[PEB]

citation requested.




...you just moved goalposts from ford and gm to self driving teslas.






yeah, i know. amd supplies them.

Hay if the dude in your meme got 5 cents each time you used his gif he would be swimming in money an own a California mansion.

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Semiconductor chips can do some incredible stuff. According to Bloomberg, chips power a wide range of products, from washing machines to advanced satellites. Cars, too, use semiconductors. A vehicle’s touchscreen is essentially a computer, and that’s one area where chips play a vital role.

And chips control functions in other parts of cars, AZoM reports. For instance, safety features rely on chips. Those features include automatic emergency braking systems, backup cameras, and even airbag deployment systems.

In addition, while a car’s touchscreen needs chips, the car’s connectivity features will also need chips. Furthermore, automobiles might even have chips in the engine. Those chips can help improve the engine’s efficiency and lower emissions, AZoM reports.

And, of course, electric vehicles need plenty of chips. The semiconductors in an EV help control its powertrain and battery, in addition to their usual functions.
"

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GMC’s all-electric Hummer will be the first car with software built using Epic’s Unreal Engine"

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/7/...-motors-gmc-hummer-ev-human-machine-interface

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/what-do-semiconductor-chips-do-in-cars/

 

[rob mafia]

Hay if the dude in your meme got 5 cents each time you used his gif he would be swimming in money an own a California mansion.

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Semiconductor chips can do some incredible stuff. According to Bloomberg, chips power a wide range of products, from washing machines to advanced satellites. Cars, too, use semiconductors. A vehicle’s touchscreen is essentially a computer, and that’s one area where chips play a vital role.

And chips control functions in other parts of cars, AZoM reports. For instance, safety features rely on chips. Those features include automatic emergency braking systems, backup cameras, and even airbag deployment systems.

In addition, while a car’s touchscreen needs chips, the car’s connectivity features will also need chips. Furthermore, automobiles might even have chips in the engine. Those chips can help improve the engine’s efficiency and lower emissions, AZoM reports.

And, of course, electric vehicles need plenty of chips. The semiconductors in an EV help control its powertrain and battery, in addition to their usual functions.
"

"
GMC’s all-electric Hummer will be the first car with software built using Epic’s Unreal Engine"

https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/7/...-motors-gmc-hummer-ev-human-machine-interface

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/what-do-semiconductor-chips-do-in-cars/

lolz @ talking shit, moving goalposts to tesla, and then trying sooooo hard that you post 2 irrelevant articles (wumao gotta wumao, spam forever!)

fucking lolz. so good, i'm bringing back the lolz turtle

 

[GtehMVP]

Most tech enthusiasts will buy whatever provides the better price/performance. You'll see way more AMD fanboys than Intel or Nvidia. If you go to any forum or social media post about an Nvidia or Intel product, you're going to see shill thrown around a lot by AMD fanboys.
If a tech Youtuber gives a bad review of an AMD product, they're labelled shills by the AMD fanboys. For example, one of the most trusted Youtubers, Gamers Nexus, did a review of an AMD graphics card and there was an Nvidia box on the shelf behind the reviewer. They were labelled shills, people said they were no longer reliable, accused of taking money from Nvidia for having their box in the background, etc. All because of a box on a shelf. A box, on a shelf.

It's so bizarre to me how rabid AMD fanboys are regarding CPU's. How does one even care so much about this? I was so glad to see AMD's rise on that end, as Intel needed the kick in the ass.

Console fanboys are weird enough. They are ecosystems, so I can understand the group dynamics kicking in, but CPU's? People are strange!

I only ever buy Nvidia graphics cards, as I've had terrible experiences with ATI/AMD drivers over the years, but I certainly don't love the company lol

 

[PEB]

lolz @ talking shit, moving goalposts to tesla, and then trying sooooo hard that you post 2 irrelevant articles (wumao gotta wumao, spam forever!)

fucking lolz. so good, i'm bringing back the lolz turtle

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Intel on Thursday announced one of its next major steps in supercomputing platforms: the codenamed Falcon Shores design that will bring general-purpose x86 processor cores and highly parallel compute Xe-HPC GPU cores together into one socket, along shared high-bandwidth memory developed by Intel. The product is expected to arrive in 2024.



Bringing together x86 CPU and Xe-HPC GPU resources and into the same socket as well as switching to a unified memory architecture will enable Intel to increase per socket compute density by over five times compared to current platforms (due to new architectures, finer process technologies and the addition of GPU cores), boost memory capacity and bandwidth by more than five times compared to existing designs and upsurge performance per watt by over five times relative to platforms available in February 2022.


"We are working on a brand-new architecture codenamed Falcon Shores, [which] will bring x86 and Xe GPU acceleration together into a Xeon socket, taking advantage of next generation packaging, memory and IO technologies, giving huge performance and efficiency improvements for systems computing large data sets and training gigantic AI models," said Raja Koduri, the head of Intel's Accelerated Computing Systems and Graphics Group just hours before the company's Investor Meeting 2022 kicks off."

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-teases-falcon-shores-xpu

Intel looks pretty F'd please stop. Competition is good for everyone.

 

[rob mafia]

"
Intel on Thursday announced one of its next major steps in supercomputing platforms: the codenamed Falcon Shores design that will bring general-purpose x86 processor cores and highly parallel compute Xe-HPC GPU cores together into one socket, along shared high-bandwidth memory developed by Intel. The product is expected to arrive in 2024.



Bringing together x86 CPU and Xe-HPC GPU resources and into the same socket as well as switching to a unified memory architecture will enable Intel to increase per socket compute density by over five times compared to current platforms (due to new architectures, finer process technologies and the addition of GPU cores), boost memory capacity and bandwidth by more than five times compared to existing designs and upsurge performance per watt by over five times relative to platforms available in February 2022.


"We are working on a brand-new architecture codenamed Falcon Shores, [which] will bring x86 and Xe GPU acceleration together into a Xeon socket, taking advantage of next generation packaging, memory and IO technologies, giving huge performance and efficiency improvements for systems computing large data sets and training gigantic AI models," said Raja Koduri, the head of Intel's Accelerated Computing Systems and Graphics Group just hours before the company's Investor Meeting 2022 kicks off."

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-teases-falcon-shores-xpu

Intel looks pretty F'd

this, but unironically. lolz @ posting shit from their investor meeting - aka disaster (derp, this is when they told investors they're in the red. last week)

this (from today) is the direct result of intel's investor day:



please keep talking shit, you're so good at it!




(still waiting to see these 7nm anythings in ford/gm, btw)

 

[PEB]

this, but unironically. lolz @ posting shit from their investor meeting - aka disaster (derp, this is when they told investors they're in the red. last week)

this (from today) is the direct result of intel's investor day:



please keep talking shit, you're so good at it!




(still waiting to see these 7nm anythings in ford/gm, btw)

See my previous post %%%%% if you really buy anything CNBC is selling. Wall Street hardly a great predictor of companies future especially CNBC on Tesla lol. But I will play along AMD fanboy.

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Intel
Intel (INTC) is the largest semiconductor firm by revenue, although it has fallen behind other large firms in regard to the level of complexity of its chips. The company has been expanding its infrastructure and business model since its new CEO took the reins about a year ago, and recently announced it would buy chipmaker Tower Semiconductor.

Quinn Bolton of Needham & Co., wrote in a report that the agreement is valued at about $5.4 billion and will “bring a broad range of specialty process nodes to [Intel Foundry Services] that nicely complement Intel’s advanced node process capabilities.” (See Intel Dividend Data on TipRanks)

Buying Tower will add seven fabrication plants to Intel’s manufacturing capacities, as well as an “established foundry ecosystem” and a preexisting customer base, the analyst wrote.

Bolton rated the stock a Buy and set a price target of $60 per share.

Intel is in the process of a sweeping transformation of its business model. The long-term projections are promising, despite Intel’s near-term challenges of tight gross margins due to heavy infrastructure and M&A investments.

Out of TipRanks’ 7,000-plus analyst database, Bolton ranks as No. 2. He has been successful rating stocks 79% of the time. On average, he has returned 82.5% on each on
"

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/20/top-analysts-are-bullish-on-stocks-like-intel-solaredge.html

 

[rob mafia]

See my previous post %%%%% if you really buy anything CNBC is selling. Wall Street hardly a great predictor of companies future especially CNBC on Tesla lol. But I will play along AMD fanboy.

"
Intel
Intel (INTC) is the largest semiconductor firm by revenue, although it has fallen behind other large firms in regard to the level of complexity of its chips. The company has been expanding its infrastructure and business model since its new CEO took the reins about a year ago, and recently announced it would buy chipmaker Tower Semiconductor.

Quinn Bolton of Needham & Co., wrote in a report that the agreement is valued at about $5.4 billion and will “bring a broad range of specialty process nodes to [Intel Foundry Services] that nicely complement Intel’s advanced node process capabilities.” (See Intel Dividend Data on TipRanks)

Buying Tower will add seven fabrication plants to Intel’s manufacturing capacities, as well as an “established foundry ecosystem” and a preexisting customer base, the analyst wrote.

Bolton rated the stock a Buy and set a price target of $60 per share.

Intel is in the process of a sweeping transformation of its business model. The long-term projections are promising, despite Intel’s near-term challenges of tight gross margins due to heavy infrastructure and M&A investments.

Out of TipRanks’ 7,000-plus analyst database, Bolton ranks as No. 2. He has been successful rating stocks 79% of the time. On average, he has returned 82.5% on each on
"

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/20/top-analysts-are-bullish-on-stocks-like-intel-solaredge.html

lolz @ the mad wumao spamming this (sucks for you, but no one really cares about bolton... unlike stacy rasgon, who's well regarded as the best semi analyst [and doesn't hand out upgrades often, obviously] ) calling me an amd fanboy.

...after accusing me of being a tsmc shareholder. repeatedly. as recent as last week.

u mad

so mad you can't even keep your accusations straight. weird that you spammed ~5 articles, but nothing to show 7nm in ford/gm. womp, womp.

 

[PEB]

The new Intel Ponte Vecchio chip contains 100 billion transisters and combines 3D and 2D interconnects and successfully implements chiplet design elements to interc0nnect between modules. It is heading to the worlds first exaflop supercomputer.

"On Monday, Intel unveiled new details of the processor that will power the Aurora supercomputer, which is designed to become one of the first U.S.-based high-performance computers (HPCs) to pierce the exaflop barrier—a billion billion high-precision floating-point calculations per second. Intel Fellow Wilfred Gomes told engineers virtually attending the IEEE International Solid State Circuits Conference this week that the processor pushed Intel’s 2D and 3D chiplet integration technologies to the limits."

Ponte Vecchio is, among other things, a master class in 3D integration. Each Ponte Vecchio processor is really two mirror image sets of chiplets tied together using Intel’s 2D integration technology Co-EMIB. Co-EMIB forms a bridge of high-density interconnects between two 3D stacks of chiplets. The bridge itself is a small piece of silicon embedded in a package’s organic substrate. The interconnect lines on silicon can be made narrower than on the organic substrate. Ponte Vecchio’s ordinary connections to the package substrate were 100 micrometers apart, whereas they were nearly twice as dense in the Co-EMIB chip. Co-EMIB dies also connect high-bandwidth memory (HBM) and the Xe Link I/O chiplet to the “base silicon,” the largest chiplet, upon which others are stacked.

Each set of eight compute tiles, four SRAM cache chiplets called RAMBO tiles, and eight blank “thermal” tiles meant to remove heat from the processor is connected vertically to a base tile. This base provides cache memory and a network that allows any compute tile to access any memory.

Notably, these tiles are made using different manufacturing technologies, according to what suited their performance requirements and yield. The latter term, the fraction of usable chips per wafer, is particularly important in a chiplet integration like Ponte Vecchio, because attaching bad tiles to good ones means you’ve ruined a lot of expensive silicon. The compute tiles needed top performance, so they were made using TSMC’s N5 (often called a 5-nanometer) process. The RAMBO tile and the base tile both used Intel 7 (often called a 7-nanometer) process. HBM, a 3D stack of DRAM, uses a completely different process than the logic technology of the other chiplets, and the Xe Link tile was made using TSMC’s N7 process.

The base die also used Intel’s 3D stacking technology, called Foveros. The technology makes a dense array of die-to-die vertical connections between two chips. These connections are just 36 micrometers apart and are made by connecting the chips “face to face”; that is, the top of one chip is bonded to the top of the other. Signals and power get into this stack by means of through-silicon vias, fairly wide vertical interconnects that cut right through the bulk of the silicon. The Foveros technology used on Ponte Vecchio is an improvement over the one used to make Intel’s Lakefield mobile processor, doubling the density of signal
connections.

Needless to say, none of this was easy. It took innovations in yield, clock circuits, thermal regulation, and power delivery, Gomes said. In order to ramp performance up or down with need, each compute tile could run at a different voltage and clock frequency. The clock signals originate in the base die but each compute tile can runs at its own rate. Providing the voltage was even more complicated. Intel engineers chose to supply the processor with a higher than normal voltage (1.8 volts) so they could simplify the package structure due to the lower current needs. Circuits in the base tile reduce the voltage to something closer to 0.7 volts for use on the compute tiles, and each compute tile had to have its own power domain in the base tile. Key to this ability were new high-efficiency inductors called coaxial magnetic integrated inductors. Because these are built into the package substrate, the circuit actually snakes back and forth between the base tile and the package before supplying the voltage to the compute tile.

"
https://spectrum.ieee.org/intel-s-exascale-supercomputer-chip-is-a-master-class-in-3d-integration

EDIT: Oh on a side note because Intel may be releasing some of their cards rumored this month or early April to surprise everyone they believe this coincides with a jump of inventories of Nvidia and AMD GPU's as people wait to see what Intel is cooking. As I been saying competition is good for the consumer.

 

[PEB]

The issue has gain interest again seeing TSMC is key to production of around 70 percent of all GPU's and CPU's a Chinese invasion has become another danger again. Someone online who's an expert on geopolitical issues said the success of Ukraine takeover will rise the possibility of Taiwan takeover by China. We need to insure our supplies of chips this is not whatever rob paints this issue this is now a strong possibility. We could be 1 to 2 years behind in being able to produce chips in the volumes we need if this happens in under a year. Ukraine is a major producer of elements used by chips around 20 percent of specific elements.

We don't need a war with China we need to secure our chip production.
https://news.yahoo.com/unofficial-capacity-pompeo-urges-us-061845536.html

 

[rob mafia]

The issue has gain interest again seeing TSMC is key to production of around 70 percent of all GPU's and CPU's a Chinese invasion has become another danger again. Someone online who's an expert on geopolitical issues said the success of Ukraine takeover will rise the possibility of Taiwan takeover by China. We need to insure our supplies of chips this is not whatever rob paints this issue this is now a strong possibility. We could be 1 to 2 years behind in being able to produce chips in the volumes we need if this happens in under a year. Ukraine is a major producer of elements used by chips around 20 percent of specific elements.

We don't need a war with China we need to secure our chip production.
https://news.yahoo.com/unofficial-capacity-pompeo-urges-us-061845536.html

ffs, wumao gotta wumao!



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[PEB]

It's obvious Gamers Nexus is on Intel's payroll lol.



He went with Rizen even after Gamer's Nexus recommended Intel lol. AMD fanboys are weak.

 

[rob mafia]

It's obvious Gamers Nexus is on Intel's payroll lol.

He went with Rizen even after Gamer's Nexus recommended Intel lol. AMD fanboys are weak.

lolz @ the wumao spamming videos he didn't watch.

glad to see mc getting love.

 

[PEB]

lolz @ the wumao spamming videos he didn't watch.

glad to see mc getting love.

I watched it troll just decided to post the results. I did not want to give away the ending an if he had known Gamer was going to pickup the tab he would have went with the Alder Lake 12 Gen for a little more money. Instead of the 5700. The motherboard was the turning point price. Other lower cost option where not available.

 

[rob mafia]

I watched it troll just decided to post the results. I did not want to give away the ending an if he had known Gamer was going to pickup the tab he would have went with the Alder Lake 12 Gen for a little more money. Instead of the 5700. The motherboard was the turning point price. Other lower cost option where not available.

...weird, it's like TCO matters or something? weird. where i have that before? oh, right. this thread.