Infowars And Alex Jones Banned On Multiple Online Platforms

[WTF2008]

Im not repeating the 'private company' argument. Reread the thread

Does this "private company" take tax payer money?

 

[WTF2008]

I've seen a clip of it. It is my own conspiracy theory that Alex Jones got himself banned on purpose because he needs his dickcheese fans to donate money to him for his court case.

Clown shoes.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

I'm fine with Starbucks throwing out people who are taking up space and not buying anything. Their product is food/drinks in a comfortable environment. Their space is very limited and they need people to buy drinks/food to turn a profit. Also, Starbucks is not primarily a communications platform. In sum, the incident you mentioned wouldn't dissuade me from patronizing Starbucks. (Starbucks's inane response to the incident might, but that's a separate issue.)

A policy of censoring people on a social media platform like Facebook would tend to dissuade me from using the platform. Its product is a platform for connecting with people and sharing ideas. I'd rather be part of a platform in which bad ideas can be attacked and debunked (e.g., the Sherdog War Room) than a platform in which people with bad ideas/misinformation are banned.

Here in the War Room, there are a couple of posters whose writings I find inane and ignorant. I typically ignore them, and I never "report" them or otherwise hope they will be banned.

Exactly, my man. Free speech is the mechanism by which a free society functions, and bad ideas are only exposed by better ones. Silencing Jones made him a martyr and the Streisand Effect is in full effect now.

When Jimmy Dore, the guy that spit in Alex Jones' face, is defending him, you know something is wrong. And when people, like Ethan from H3, are throwing him under the bus but getting kicked off YouTube for even talking about him, for taking YouTube's side, you know YouTube has gone full blown INSANE!

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Interesting video on Jared Holt being a big player behind Alex Jones getting disappeared.

I think it also goes deeper, like how Shapiro and other new era Conservatives started going after Alex Jones, kept hammering the Hillary started "Sandy Hook Sandy Hook" narrative; I then knew big Oligarchs, like the Koch brothers and others, were up to something and were consent manufacturing. This was apparently talked about at last year's Bilderberg and trying to find ways to control and silence dissenting voices. TYT sold out to big money and that is well own via their ex employees whom have spoken out.

Alex may be a mad man, but I do think he prides himself on being a Patriot and doing what he sees as right. A lot of people do not know that he was more against Bush than even the most hardcore Liberal, and Trump was really the only candidate that he ever backed, even cried when he bombed Syria. This is election meddling. No other way of putting it.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

I've seen a clip of it. It is my own conspiracy theory that Alex Jones got himself banned on purpose because he needs his dickcheese fans to donate money to him for his court case.

If he wanted to get himself banned, he could have just broke the rules, but he did not. Now, the Proud Boys got Twitter banned and they did nothing either, likely a response from Twitter because the blood thirsty troll mob was out for Alex Jones' blood.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Lmao... Funny to see the same exact arguments used on both sides of the pond.

You guys remember the Starbucks controversy? Yeah, that was just a private company exerting it's "right" to let in and throw out whoever it wants for any reason.

But no... YouTube and Facebook are a big librul cunspriracy and shouldn't be doing that.

Hypocrites.

Starbucks is not a monopoly. If you want coffee, you can go to McDonalds. There is simply no other option to Facebook or YouTube, therefor they are monopolies and the internet is in dire need of a Bill Of Rights. If there was another video streaming service that had the butt loads of bandwidth that they let us burn on the tax payers dime, then it would not be a problem, and it's being disingenuous to not acknowledge this as anything other than election meddling directly before the election.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Does this "private company" take tax payer money?

Hundreds of millions tax payer money at that.

Clown shoes.

I don't think I've ever seen a time where Americans n are so fine with the first amendment being suspended for political means. I hate using the 'literally a Nazi' analogy, but this is the closest that I've witnessed in my life. If you want an idea to blow up, the best way is to silence it, which just shows you how clueless the Technocracy has become.

 

[tonni]

Alright, then you know he didn't make a death threat to Mueller assuming you really did watch it.

It could be interpreted either way which obviously was his intent.

 

[MeWithInfinityGauntlet]

This isn't good.

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

I've been seeing this reasoning a few times now, and I gotta say, I'll believe it when I see it. The right and #classicalliberals have won a lot since November 2016, and thus they don't really recognize losing. Like, if something looks bad, it's only temporary until the real thing happens. But they've had their surge. This might just be the wave breaking on the shore. Everyone knows who Alex Jones is, and have pretty much made up their mind about him. I don't really expect this to sway a whole lot of people who weren't already swayed.

I'm not talking about swaying people - those who didn't like Alex Jones then are not going to like him now. That's a given.

I'm talking about this publicity reaching people who've never heard of Alex Jones, but are receptive to his ideas and are potential followers.

You have a guy like Jones who rants and raves for years about globalists and being shut down by "the man", and then you see a concerted effort to shut him down... people who are receptive to his views are going to see that as a validation of his rhetoric.

 

[shockaholic12]

Starbucks is not a monopoly. If you want coffee, you can go to McDonalds. There is simply no other option to Facebook or YouTube, therefor they are monopolies and the internet is in dire need of a Bill Of Rights. If there was another video streaming service that had the butt loads of bandwidth that they let us burn on their dime, then it would not be a problem, and it's being disingenuous to not acknowledge this as anything other than election meddling before the election.

There’s many more video hosting sites besides YouTube. Also other forms of social media outside of facebook. There’s no insanely high barrier to overcome when creating your own video or image hosting website with social media features, no single seller of such a service.

You confusing “popular” with the definition of an actual monopoly. The people who made FB and YouTube can set their rules for their own sites and if infowars doesn’t like them there’s nothing stopping them from posting elsewhere or making their own sites, except the frustration that it won’t be as cheap and convenient to get views, but that’s not FB or YouTube’s problem.

 

[DeJulez]

I dislike Alex Jones but it's funny when Facebook allowed propaganda for the Islamic State for years to remain.

No one sees that shit.

 

[ElKarlo]

There’s many more video hosting sites besides YouTube. Also other forms of social media outside of facebook. There’s no insanely high barrier to overcome when creating your own video or image hosting website with social media features, no single seller of such a service.

You confusing “popular” with the definition of an actual monopoly. The people who made FB and YouTube can set their rules for their own sites and if infowars doesn’t like them there’s nothing stopping them from posting elsewhere or making their own sites, except the frustration that it won’t be as cheap and convenient to get views, but that’s not FB or YouTube’s problem.

No. Facebook and Google are indeed monopolies . They together have 90% of all online ad revenue. Saying there's other services is like saying you can get a non Doctor pepper, coke, Pepsi product at a soda fountain. Yes tbey exist but rare and lack scale

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

I wasn't aware of much of the stuff he said and done but watching the first 10 seconds of this great video all I can say is, good riddance!

Can't disagree with the video.

 

[Happy Man]

There’s many more video hosting sites besides YouTube. Also other forms of social media outside of facebook. There’s no insanely high barrier to overcome when creating your own video or image hosting website with social media features, no single seller of such a service.

You confusing “popular” with the definition of an actual monopoly. The people who made FB and YouTube can set their rules for their own sites and if infowars doesn’t like them there’s nothing stopping them from posting elsewhere or making their own sites, except the frustration that it won’t be as cheap and convenient to get views, but that’s not FB or YouTube’s problem.

It's a monopoly by other means. Facebook bought WhatsApp for 19 billion dollars. WhatsApp is used by around a billion people.

If there will never really be any kind of real competition because the competition will always be bought out, that's a monopoly.

Our system has stopped breaking up monopolies because our politicians are now so corrupt as well as the companies. Last time we saw a big breakup was Bell telephone (AT&T) in the early 80's. They actually forced new companies into existence.

That's all gone, and these companies are of course monopolies who will just buy out competition once they ever become poplular enough.

 

[Throwin Bombs]

It could be interpreted either way which obviously was his intent.

I'm glad you answered truthfully that it wasn't a death threat. Everything Alex Jones says is with a sensationalized flair and people will read into with whatever bias they choose.

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

Seems like the InfoWars business model is rather grey.

1) They obviously deliberately peddle CT bullshit to attract a slice of the population that is extremely gullible to this sort of thing.
2) They try to peddle products to sell on their show that seem to be questionable nutrition products.

It's almost like selling shit go going senile elderly people, but instead they target the going crazy idiots in society.

It really scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

I'm pretty much a free speech super fan, but it gets murky when you know deliberately dishing out this bullshit makes a segment of your unhinged audience do quite damaging things and the things you say can be rather harmful. The whole school shooting crisis actor thing is Westboro Church level trolling. The thing though is it's not easy to know the boundaries between art and pornography, except you know it when you see it.

Lot of grey area in this one, but my God is Alex Jones a piece of shit and anybody who takes his schtick remotely serious is really fucking stupid.

 

[tonni]

I'm glad you answered truthfully that it wasn't a death threat. Everything Alex Jones says is with a sensationalized flair and people will read into with whatever bias they choose.

I actually don't think he should be banned but I don't really care either.

 

[Throwin Bombs]

I actually don't think he should be banned but I don't really care either.

I know you are focusing on Alex Jones being banned specifically but the larger more pertinent issue is corporations or a certain segment deciding what the masses actually get to hear. Its a dangerous concept as less and less people are able to decide for themselves on important issues and are instead fed easy to digest propoganda. This issue should upset everyone and not just be a left/ right thing. Our freedoms have been eroding for years and both parties have had a hand in that. I don't need some programming dorks to decide what content I will view or not view.

 

[tonni]

I know you are focusing on Alex Jones being banned specifically but the larger more pertinent issue is corporations or a certain segment deciding what the masses actually get to hear. Its a dangerous concept as less and less people are able to decide for themselves on important issues and are instead fed easy to digest propoganda. This issue should upset everyone and not just be a left/ right thing. Our freedoms have been eroding for years and both parties have had a hand in that. I don't need some programming dorks to decide what content I will view or not view.

I watched a video from an alpha male theory guy about how males "test eachother's social dominance" and it was absolutely deliciously ridiculous. Diametrically opposite to my point of view but it hones your critical thinking skill to plow through heaps of pseudoscientific bullshit like alpha theory.