I'm sure it's dumb, but I can't figure out "one punch KO power"

One punch KO power is simply genetic.
We've seen pillow fisted fuckers with perfect technique in both boxing and MMA.

I could take around 80 significant strikes from Sean Strickland before going down (giving myself Abus level durability stats), I could not take any significant headstrikes from Poatan before going spark the fuck out.

BodybagJohnny** said:
Usually those guys are blessed instead with insane cardio.
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This is something a friend and I talked about a few years ago, that there is a definite tie to power vs cardio.
The guys who have massive one shot power are usually pretty bad on the cardio side, outside of the aforementioned Alex, but he has a slow, stalking style that's quite low output.
 
Anyone got a "personal" video punching a punch machine?

I'll try upload one from me and post it here to show the winding up part.
 
I think it's a hard thing to prove because every punch lands differently due to the dynamics of a fight.
 
Rubios said:
First, I've been training boxing and K1 in a gym with VERY skilled guys who, for personal reasons, have never even thought about competing.
I've never did a single "hard sparring" session.

Point is. Science consensus says that the strength of an untrained 13 yo i.e., if he was able to properly engage his kinetic chain, land on the precise spot and had the skill to setup an unexpected flush punch...

...would be more than enough to make a 80kg dude, at least, go instantly lights out.

So my intuitive thought is that combat training develops resistance to endure G forces much, much higher than the normal distribution.
Is that the answer or there's more to it?
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I can't figure out what you are asking exactly. Why some people have "one punch KO" power or why some people are resistant to being KOed? People having KO power is a combination of properly engaging the kinetic chain along with accuracy as you mentioned.

The reason the amount of power needed varies so much is more about the movement it creates within the cranium where the brain is sloshing around. More fluid/cushion in there, the less likely the brain is to turn off when struck (hence why guys who are dehydrated get sparked more easily).

The reason guys can go out from relatively weak shots is that the brain wasn't prepared (i.e. didn't see it coming) and/or the shot causes a ripple effect which causes the brain to freak out and turn off briefly (flash KO). You can see this when guys get caught with a hook that just scrapes the chin or the bridge of the nose and they go out. That's how it's been explained to me anyway.

Part of the reason some guys take better shots is that their neck is stronger creating a better base for the brain and brain stem so it absorbs shock better. That's just what I was told by Thais, it's why they do neck exercises in addition to it helping in clinch positions.
 
TheBulge said:
I will tell you that most of them weren't good enough(Whether skillfully or mentally) to compete and they knew it. And there's no shame in that.

But just keep that in mind when a guy starts telling you how good he was and could have done this and could have done that but life got in the way. No, he got in the way.
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Spoken like the loser I the gym who hates all the guys better than him. This conversation has come up plenty of times over the years on Old sherdog ... The consensus is that the best martial artists in the world are the ones who never compete. It's like statically a fact. Only losers who don't know how to fight and have no real training think that when you become a great martial artist you desire or want to compete, or fight other people. That's so far from the point of martial arts, and goofy ass kids will never understand that.
 
Your question is about being able to take (or not) punches?

Taking punches is a complex mix of factors (i guess similar to delivering KO´s too), one of the most mentioned is seeing the punch coming to you or not, wether you can partially block it, brace your self for it, "roll with it", down to strenght training your neck, if your head doesnt move is very difficult for your brain to shut off.

Being able to deliver 1 punch KO´s is something that can be developed but if a guy is not born with natural speed/power in his punches there is no coach in the world that could turn him into a KO machine, fast twitch muscle is a genetic trait.
 
Look at George Foreman, KO people with any punch without wind up. Heavy hands. Tyson was devastating with short punches in close.
 
Speed the hand is going when it connects is crucial.

Kinetic energy of a moving object.....1/2 m v²

m = mass of the object (often in kg)
v = velocity of the object (often in mtrs/sec).
 
Anyone can knock out anyone with one punch if they manage to hit the chin just right coming across.

If you can knock out a decent same-sized opponent who doesn't have a glass jaw with a cross coming in straight to the cheek-bone under the eye, you have one punch knockout power.
 
The ability to see and react in milliseconds is what prevents one punch KO power. Changing the direction/absorption of the energy and therefore reducing the amount of force absorbed by your brain. Me thinks.
 
AFewDollarsMore said:
Wonder if you just practiced one punching for several months, could you just eventually acquire one punch ko power. I mean everything else one practices one gets better at.
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You can increase your power a bit I think with strength training and technique, some guys just hit hard. Deontay Wilder's technique can be sloppy at times but he can knock your head off with one punch don't worry about that.

Actually Wilder proves it's not about big muscles either, he's quite lean really.
 
Rubios said:
First, I've been training boxing and K1 in a gym with VERY skilled guys who, for personal reasons, have never even thought about competing.
I've never did a single "hard sparring" session.

Point is. Science consensus says that the strength of an untrained 13 yo i.e., if he was able to properly engage his kinetic chain, land on the precise spot and had the skill to setup an unexpected flush punch...

...would be more than enough to make a 80kg dude, at least, go instantly lights out.

So my intuitive thought is that combat training develops resistance to endure G forces much, much higher than the normal distribution.
Is that the answer or there's more to it?
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The average guy has the strength to ko most men walking the planet. But strength isn't all that important. The speed, the angles, the muscle response time, the reflexes..... Half the stuff can be trained, but a lot is just natural ability. Silva is a perfect example. Just a nature built uber reflex machine. He saw fighters movement different, and instantly knew how to react. Look at his record after he lost his reflex speed.
 
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