I'm sure it's dumb, but I can't figure out "one punch KO power"

[Rubios]

First, I've been training boxing and K1 in a gym with VERY skilled guys who, for personal reasons, have never even thought about competing.
I've never did a single "hard sparring" session.

Point is. Science consensus says that the strength of an untrained 13 yo i.e., if he was able to properly engage his kinetic chain, land on the precise spot and had the skill to setup an unexpected flush punch...

...would be more than enough to make a 80kg dude, at least, go instantly lights out.

So my intuitive thought is that combat training develops resistance to endure G forces much, much higher than the normal distribution.
Is that the answer or there's more to it?

 

[TheBulge]

First, I've been training boxing and K1 in a gym with VERY skilled guys who, for personal reasons, have never even thought about competing.

Is that what they tell you?

 

[TCE]

I think it's pretty simple..

Some fighters have one punch KO power, others don't.

I can explain further if needed.

 

[Rubios]

I think it's pretty simple..

Some fighters have one punch KO power, others don't.

I can explain further if needed.

I'd like to, thanks in advance.

 

[Rubios]

Is that what they tell you?

Anyone with many years of disciplined 3/4 days a week combat training starting from a young age + a good physical conditioning routine could compete. I'm not talking about me, but my coaches.
With more or less success.

Not everyone wants to hurt other people, get hurt, worry his loved ones or the loved ones of their opponents.

 

[TheBulge]

Anyone with many years of disciplined 3/4 days a week combat training starting from a young age + a good physical conditioning routine could compete. I'm not talking about me, but my coaches.
With more or less success.

Not everyone wants to hurt other people, get hurt, worry his loved ones or the loved ones of their opponents.

I will tell you that most of them weren't good enough(Whether skillfully or mentally) to compete and they knew it. And there's no shame in that.

But just keep that in mind when a guy starts telling you how good he was and could have done this and could have done that but life got in the way. No, he got in the way.

 

[mmasask]

anyone can get caught and or will eventually get caught. father time always wins.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

First, I've been training boxing and K1 in a gym with VERY skilled guys who, for personal reasons, have never even thought about competing.
I've never did a single "hard sparring" session.

Point is. Science consensus says that the strength of an untrained 13 yo i.e., if he was able to properly engage his kinetic chain, land on the precise spot and had the skill to setup an unexpected flush punch...

...would be more than enough to make a 80kg dude, at least, go instantly lights out.

So my intuitive thought is that combat training develops resistance to endure G forces much, much higher than the normal distribution.
Is that the answer or there's more to it?

A good example is Steven Shakur, he is a great boxer, throws tons of punches, but his hands are weak, his grip strength is terrible, his bone density is weak, so his punches lack ko power, but on the other hand you have Tank Davis who has strong bone density, great grip strength, great ko power.

 

[doggo]

A. There is people who really have to wind up to be able to generate power, me for instance if I don't wind up the punch won't be all that terrifying. If I do though move out of the way.

B. Some people don't even need to wind up and can generate immense power, from their bums lol.

And then there are people who can't even do A and wind up a good punch. Just not in them.

 

[Rubios]

I will tell you that most of them weren't good enough(Whether skillfully or mentally) to compete and they knew it. And there's no shame in that.

But just keep that in mind when a guy starts telling you how good he was and could have done this and could have done that but life got in the way. No, he got in the way.

Actually, not everyone needs to brag about how good they are at something.
They have never done so. They know they are just a bunch of dudes that started training Thai at a young age and took it somewhat seriously because they like it.

Some people, like myself, as amateurs, just see fighting as a game. A hobby.
I could be playing basketball or (European) football but I find boxing and KB much more enjoyable and good for my mental health, and I found there a unique, pure, sense of community that paradoxically never found to that extent in team sports.

 

[colorles]

I will tell you that most of them weren't good enough(Whether skillfully or mentally) to compete and they knew it. And there's no shame in that.

But just keep that in mind when a guy starts telling you how good he was and could have done this and could have done that but life got in the way. No, he got in the way.

This guy has a point but not absolutely. So, So many guys talk about "how good they were in their primes, what they could have done if not for this and that"...and 99% of the time it is exaggerated at best if not downright bullshit. There are literally dozens of guys like that - if not more - in any given town or city. Some are middle aged men or older; and others young men that play the role; sometimes playing the role helps them get with girls; other times they are just disliked by most people.

That being said, there are guys in the world that legitimately did have the athleticism and talent to make it at something, that never did due to "life getting in the way" (whatever that may be)...although those kinds of guys are seldom vocal about it.

 

[Tweak896]

Rampage used to say KO power comes from your ass, (like how big it is)

 

[colorles]

Rampage used to say KO power comes from your ass, (like how big it is)

The ass is an explosive muscle and the centerpiece of the posterior chain along with the hamstrings and back. It is definitely a part of ko power but there is more to it than that of course.

 

[Tweak896]

The ass is an explosive muscle and the centerpiece of the posterior chain along with the hamstrings and back. It is definitely a part of ko power but there is more to it than that of course.

Makes sense, to exaggerate the kinetic chain I like to think of a pitcher throwing a ball in baseball.

 

[colorles]

Makes sense, to exaggerate the kinetic chain I like to think of a pitcher throwing a ball in baseball.

Yes, indeed. Throwing is the perfect example. Same thing with throwing a football:



"I'm a put both cheeks into this one"

 

[TheBulge]

This guy has a point but not absolutely. So, So many guys talk about "how good they were in their primes, what they could have done if not for this and that"...and 99% of the time it is exaggerated at best if not downright bullshit. There are literally dozens of guys like that - if not more - in any given town or city. Some are middle aged men or older; and others young men that play the role; sometimes playing the role helps them get with girls; other times they are just disliked by most people.

That being said, there are guys in the world that legitimately did have the athleticism and talent to make it at something, that never did due to "life getting in the way" (whatever that may be)...although those kinds of guys are seldom vocal about it.

Thank you. And I just know from personal interactions. There have been instances where I poked a little further and I ended up seeing footage of their old amateur fights and training and it was clear, they never would have made it to a high level like they made themselves believe.

And like I said from the start there is nothing wrong with that, I have respect for anybody who goes in there to fight I never had that in me myself, hell I even avoided hard sparring(but that's because the angels called for me to preserve my braincells so that I could spread my wisdom online on Sherdog. Otherwise I could have been a contender). I'm just over it when somebody give me the 'Could have-talk.

 

[TheBulge]

Rampage used to say KO power comes from your ass, (like how big it is)

That was just some hollywood tv show talk to spice it up. He meant the hips(I put my ass in it).

 

[marvinparsons]

Go watch an MLB game. Some pitchers can throw ridiculous heat, some can't. They've all trained for years and have good technique, so it's mainly genetics. Some people can move their arm faster and generate more power. Same as fighting, if you can also control where that pitch is going and hit the target, you're going to be even better.

 

[TheBulge]

Go watch an MLB game. Some pitchers can throw ridiculous heat, some can't. They've all trained for years and have good technique, so it's mainly genetics. Some people can move their arm faster and generate more power. Same as fighting, if you can also control where that pitch is going and hit the target, you're going to be even better.

It's like in Basketball, the more balls you can throw into the hoop the better you are.

 

[burningspear]

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