I'm more convinced than ever that Jon Jones is suspended

[Amm]

Oh no he almost lost a fight, we should stop caring immediately!

Hes looked like shit compared to his old self after DC2

 

[Ali Abdelaziz]

Lesnars exemption was only for the 6 months. He was tested. He failed and the results came back after the fight. In regular time.

If your proof that they do whatever they want is vitor having elevated t/e levels with a TUE in 2013 before usada then that’s pretty lame.

its only lame to you because it pokes all kinda holes in your reality.

If the fighter had a TUE and cheated he should of not been allowed to fight still.

UFC still allowed it and not revealing the results to the other fighter till after the bout.

Thats why Hunt is suing no ? Because he went over the limits of his "exemption"

which means UFC got final say in what happens.

They like to "obey" the findings of USADA to save face and operate like a legit sport.

But fact is when it comes to money they will bend the rules when need be.

They did it for Jon, Vitor, and Lesnar the most notable ones anyways. As we got more information from fighters involved and sources in\tied to media thats why we even caught wind.

They do whatever they want however whenever.

 

[Ali Abdelaziz]

What did Vitor fail for again?

the best source for this is Jon Jones himself ratting out UFC !!

and he did it with Ariel Helwani ..

suggest a brief visit to Youtube and watch the guy spill all the beans

 

[kflo]

its only lame to you because it pokes all kinda holes in your reality.

If the fighter had a TUE and cheated he should of not been allowed to fight still.

UFC still allowed it and not revealing the results to the other fighter till after the bout.

Thats why Hunt is suing no ? Because he went over the limits of his "exemption"

which means UFC got final say in what happens.

They like to "obey" the findings of USADA to save face and operate like a legit sport.

But fact is when it comes to money they will bend the rules when need be.

They did it for Jon, Vitor, and Lesnar the most notable ones anyways. As we got more information from fighters involved and sources in\tied to media thats why we even caught wind.

They do whatever they want however whenever.

You don’t understand what lesnars exemption was for.

 

[Ali Abdelaziz]

You don’t understand what lesnars exemption was for

I do and it wasnt handled professionally.

Just because he gets an exemption doesnt mean he can take whatever he wants or however much he wants.

Thats the issue here.

Just ask Mark Hunt

 

[kflo]

I do and it wasnt handled professionally.

Just because he gets an exemption doesnt mean he can take whatever he wants or however much he wants.

Thats the issue here.

Just ask Mark Hunt

Hunts case was dismissed.

lesnar didn’t have an exemption to take what he wanted. He had an exemption only to not be in the testing pool for 6 months. Like meisha just had.

 

[genecop]

the ufc cannot justify another Jones suspension/legal blunder. Not with the espn partnership, they cannot afford to look dirty as a sport when a fighter they hail as an all time great is a notorious PED abuser and crack head.

Regarding Keeping John’s image intact, I think that ship sailed..

 

[genecop]

To give the fighter time to fight usada verdict. Because usada can sometimes be wrong like with Nate diaz and yoel Romero so fighters have a chance to prove their innocence before their rep gets destroyed forever

Johns Rep is pretty much a wrap..

 

[genecop]

They do whatever's convenient for them and their revenue at any given time.

Reporting Jon popping again isn't good for business.

But correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Jon done something that disables testing him right now? Like a fake retirement or something.

I think Jon popped again, but I could be wrong. I just don't think reporting him doing it again would be in their best interest.

I guess we will never know for sure, what we do know is that Dana and the entire USADA thing is shitshow…

 

[Ali Abdelaziz]

Hunts case was dismissed.

lesnar didn’t have an exemption to take what he wanted. He had an exemption only to not be in the testing pool for 6 months. Like meisha just had.

they dismissed it because UFC proved they could do whatever they want within the organization. which allowed Lesnar not to participate in the USADA testing

except he had to take the NSAC test because UFC doesnt own them like they do USADA because of contract agreements

Notice the NSAC didnt obide by UFC and USADA rules


UFC can and will do what they want and if it mean having a fight result overturned the so be it as long as everyone gets paid

Also they did big favor for Vitor which obviously was against the rules and allowing him to continue is evidence enough that UFC can do whatever they want.

They have done it before and they can choose to weigh damages vs. reward and continue anytime they want.

 

[kflo]

they dismissed it because UFC proved they could do whatever they want within the organization. which allowed Lesnar not to participate in the USADA testing

except he had to take the NSAC test because UFC doesnt own them like they do USADA because of contract agreements

Notice the NSAC didnt obide by UFC and USADA rules


UFC can and will do what they want and if it mean having a fight result overturned the so be it as long as everyone gets paid

Also they did big favor for Vitor which obviously was against the rules and allowing him to continue is evidence enough that UFC can do whatever they want.

They have done it before and they can choose to weigh damages vs. reward and continue anytime they want.

Again you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. He was tested 7 times by usada. He was caught by usada and he was suspended by usada.

 

[Ali Abdelaziz]

Again you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. He was tested 7 times by usada. He was caught by usada and he was suspended by usada.

He was also caught by NSAC

UFC and USADA were useless obviously cause UFC allowed him to fight after failed test

Only real suspension\consequence that happened was NSAC and the bout overturned to NC

And that doesn't change the fact they cheated with Vitor as well.

 

[GrantB13]

the ufc cannot justify another Jones suspension/legal blunder. Not with the espn partnership, they cannot afford to look dirty as a sport when a fighter they hail as an all time great is a notorious PED abuser and crack head.

Easy solution:
"This mother fucker Jon Jones. We got him. We made it clear to everyone that we are stepping up our game. We do NOT tolerate drug failures. Jon Jones is a lying, PED drug cheat who fights dirty when he makes it to the cage. This is a disgrace. I would just like to apologize to the fans, the fighters, and to our great, amazing business partners at ESPN and Disney who have been the best to work with. This was Jon Jones' last chance and we no longer consider him to be the best. It makes me sick to know that we backed this kid for so long only for him to go and do something like this repeatedly. Trust me, you will never see Jon Jones in the UFC ever again"

If he fails again, they could throw him under the bus. Hard. Distance themselves from any involvement.

 

[Dirty Frank]

Even Dana White is juiced, yet you still think that only Jones is in that game... : https://theconversation.com/doping-...-tokyo-might-not-be-certain-until-2031-163881

And olympic athletes earn less money than UFC fighters...

What a sad state this sport is in if one concedes cheating is OK. You do you, I guess.

 

[Dirty Frank]

Even Dana White is juiced, yet you still think that only Jones is in that game... : https://theconversation.com/doping-...-tokyo-might-not-be-certain-until-2031-163881

And olympic athletes earn less money than UFC fighters...

Is Dana fighting?

 

[RockyLockridge]

Johns Rep is pretty much a wrap..

but imagine if he had time to fight his case.

 

[kflo]

He was also caught by NSAC

UFC and USADA were useless obviously cause UFC allowed him to fight after failed test

Only real suspension\consequence that happened was NSAC and the bout overturned to NC

And that doesn't change the fact they cheated with Vitor as well.

You’re lying again. His test result came back after the fight. We knew he failed usada before nsac.

It’s the commissions job to rule an NC, not usada genius.

Again vitor was 8 years ago before usada and it wasn’t an automatic violation. They changed rules since. They didn’t have to…but that’s your one proof piece….cmon….

 

[Adamant]

You know what the problem is..... USADA. There should be no drug testing. Let them juice all they want. USADA can get fucked.

 

[Evangelion]

Made up theory with absolutely zero evidence, sounds legit. If it was true, then you think Dana, Jones and Ngannou all agreed on putting on a circus on Twitter for a fight negotiation that never happened because it was impossible to sanction and Jones complained about pay and changed his manager for no reason? Dana is breaking several rules and doing Jones a favor risking sanctions for a fight Jones doesn't even want to take, while letting Jon trash him on Twitter for no reason? Lol. It’s a totally nonsensical and pretty stupid idea.

The more likely scenario is he realized that he won miraculously against Reyes via robbery and barely scraped by a one-legged Santos and that he would get beaten soon, because he’s clearly not the same guy anymore. He also has more than enough money. Ego couldn’t handle it so he made up an excuse not to have to defend at LHW. That excuse was he would move to HW. Of course the risk of losing is even bigger fighting top 3 HWs, so he will make yet another excuse (the UFC won’t pay me nuttin) and retire with a pristine record and untouched GOAT status without risking it again and without admitting he’s out of his prime, or taking any responsibility. Jones is now retired, he just won’t admit it. GSP "retired" as soon as he almost lost a fight and started to fall off his prime, this is the same. Pretty simple really, lay off the tinfoil.

I think this is way more likely with the caveat that if the Ufc offered him an obscene amount of money hed risk his pristine record and legacy.

 

[TempleoftheDog]

All I’ll say on this whole topic is that literally both USADA, and the UFC have changed procedures and the way they do things. Specifically because of Jones.

When it comes to him.. There is no shady shit, corruption, or favourtism they could show him that would surprise me at this point. Including how a lifetime ban could somehow be argued in arbitration into a mere 2 year suspension. Money talks, and the dick pill, tainted supplements defence could be upheld by an “independent” (But possibly corrupt) arbiter. And the supposed mandatory lifetime ban could suddenly just become another mere 2 year suspension.

The bottom line for me is, fuck that guy. And if he never fights again, the sport will be better off for it.