Rumored Ilia vs Paddy UFC 324 Paramount debut card

[RockyLockridge]

Why? Gaethje is one of the most exciting fighters in the sport today but he doesn't deserve yet another shot at the title on a one win run and he doesn't even have the grappling to potentially make things interesting against Ilia.

Paddy hasn't been very impressive and he's gonna get starched but if they're not gonna do Arman, imo at least give the fight to someone with a win streak.

You guys were not nearly as vocal when Charles and Dustin got title shots off one win

 

[jeskola]

the eat crow quote post on here after the fight is going to be so long. multi-post quote for sure.

 

[rjmbrd]

You guys were not nearly as vocal when Charles and Dustin got title shots off one win

Charles is a former world champion who defended the belt.

JG is the guy who got murdered in both of his title shots, despite having really preferential bookings from the UFC. He also absolutely sucks at grappling and throws himself to the ground looping hooks.

Justin is not the same caliber of fighter as Do Bronx by any measurement. To a lesser degree, this is true of Poirier. When they were both in their prime, there was no dispute who was the better fighter, Dustin gave him a kickboxing guts and glory fight and JG couldn't take it.

JG just got punched to sleep by pillow fisted Max Holloway after being out classed over 5 rounds. The best guys mop the floor with the guys who mop the floor with Justin. He's not even in the discussion.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Charles is a former world champion who defended the belt.

Explain Dustin, whom got Ko'd by Gaethje a fight before earning a title shot against bsd.

Charles is the first champ to lose his belt to a scale, but feed him a title shot with a titleshot against a far easier guy than fiziev in chandler at this point.

but your here to tell me That chandler is a better win than Fiziev, I'm sure.

Gaethje does better against Illa than Charles anyway because he's not going to break in half the first time he gets hit clean.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

They did Justin dirtay.

I think they did him a solid by not letting him suffer some more CTE.

 

[rjmbrd]

Explain Dustin, whom got Ko'd by Gaethje a fight before earning a title shot against bsd.

Sure. When Dustin and JG fought in their prime, Dustin knocked him out, while obliging exactly the fight Justin wanted. He then knocks out Alvarez - you know another guy who KO'd Dustin. He then beats Holloway - another, another guy who has KO'd Justin.

He had two very high profile TKO wins over Conor, the biggest name in the sport. He was coming off a spectacular KO of BSD. So you have a guy with a storied career who shows up in big fights, pretty much the opposite of JG who gets torched in name-brand fights.

So we can index it:

- Dustin has a storied career winning big fights - like KO'ing Justin, Conor, Alvarez
- Dustin is coming off a spectacular KO, as opposed to JG winning a narrow decision against Fiziev
- Willing to accept Islam fight on short notice
- Arman was unavailable

We can summarize it as straight up having a better career than Justin, coming off a big KO instead of a sloppy decision and good luck / timing.

 

[Ibm]

Paddy will pull the upset.

 

[wrb]

If true and Ilia wipes the floor with him I will give all the credit and praise his idiot fans who don't want this fight already give him. UFC is smart in that they know how far they can favor a guy before fans start getting pissed off. Is Arman the better fighter, for sure but a least this is a young fighter who is hungry and literally becomes as big as conpr if he pulls this off. Everyone will go ape shit crazy if fucking Paddy knocks this guy out and You know its the harder fight when fans compulsively post how they want the Justin fight and Arman "is not worthy" . lol, Ilia is still probably going to win.

 

[SovereignPhantom]

You guys were not nearly as vocal when Charles and Dustin got title shots off one win

I don't know if I posted about it on here but i was absolutely critical of Charles getting the shot against Ilia, both for merit and style matchup.

If I recall correctly, Dustin's shot was partially just lucky timing.

In this case, both guys who the UFC are entertaining are undeserving and poor style matchups for the champ, but Justin has already failed decisively twice in shooting for a belt. Let fresh blood go for a shot if the champ is gonna have a gimme defense either way, is my personal view.

If Justin DOES get it, you better believe I'm tuning in for the round or two before he goes out cold, but I'd much rather watch him fight a contender at this point.

 

[Ladder Master]

Is this going to be one of those “free cards” that Sherdog talks about, that you actually have to pay money for.

 

[Khaosan]

Paddy via flying triangle and then puking all over Topuria's kids.

 

[Sycho Sid]

Explain Dustin, whom got Ko'd by Gaethje a fight before earning a title shot against bsd.

Charles is the first champ to lose his belt to a scale, but feed him a title shot with a titleshot against a far easier guy than fiziev in chandler at this point.

but your here to tell me That chandler is a better win than Fiziev, I'm sure.

Gaethje does better against Illa than Charles anyway because he's not going to break in half the first time he gets hit clean.

They both got tons of shit, especially Porier.

But the biggest difference is they did not threaten to quit if they didn't get their way like children.